but i'm joined now by doctor krish kandiah, founder of the sanctuary foundation, to give us his viewsh, we know what the polling is telling us. the vast majority of brits want this crisis to end. they want to control their borders. they don't want the small boats to keep coming. labour decriminalising, illegal migration essentially today, basically overturning the illegal migration act. more people are going to come, more boats are going to come. that's a reality, isn't it. >> matt, it's good to be with you. i think we agree on a lot. matt, i agree with you that we do need strong borders and that we're not really a country if we don't have strong borders. and i see in labour an agreement with you there too. they are trying to increase border security. they're treating the whole criminal gangs as a terrorist, counter—terrorist movement. they are trying to increase the number of crimes that you can be tried for, whether you're trying to facilitate a crossing, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing anyth

but i'm joined now by doctor krish kandiah, founder of the sanctuary foundation, to give us his viewsish, we know what the polling is telling us. the vast majority of brits want this crisis to end. they want to control their borders. they don't want the small boats to keep coming. labour decriminalising, illegal migration essentially today, basically overturning the illegal migration act. more people are going to come, more boats are going to come. that's a reality, isn't it. >> matt, it's good to be with you. i think we agree on a lot. matt, i agree with you that we do need strong borders and that we're not really a country if we don't have strong borders. and i see in labour an agreement with you there too. they are trying to increase border security. they're treating the whole criminal gangs as a terrorist, counter—terrorist movement. they are trying to increase the number of crimes that you can be tried for, whether you're trying to facilitate a crossing, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing a boat, whether you're providing any

so joining me for the next few hours, director of the charity sanctuary foundation, doctor krish kandiah and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. coming up, rachel reeves says that she will launch a war on waste. perhaps she should go first to stabilise public finances. amid growing disquiet from her mps over her handling of the economy. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, do you trust rachel reeves to reduce government waste? my poll is live on the gb news website, so head over there and vote. now in my niggle, i'll be taking on tulip siddiq head on. you couldn't make it up. labour's anti—corruption minister is being investigated for, yes, you've guessed it, corruption. despite sir keir starmer saying this in the summer, i'm absolutely determined to restore honesty and integrity to government because i think that is core to ensuring that people appreciate that politics can be a force for good. and in my interview, i'll be speaking to the award winning filmmaker andrew drury. now he is credited with being the journalist who knows isis bride shamima begum the best. h