. >> krista freeland has been nodding extremely enthusiastically as you've been speaking. i should add when we refer to public funding, i should clarify npr public radio is about 10% funded by the corporation of public broadcasting. those foundation grants and enhanced underwriting and the eccentric rich people you mentioned are also our donors too. you were getting very enthusiastic. first of all, you work for newspaper -- you did work for many years for newspaper supported by advertising. do you gag at the thought of government support and do you think that perhaps we're wrongly trying to support old media when the new world that rebecca's just described is out there? >> well, i am canadian. so publicly-funded media for me is actually probably the most natural thing in the world. and i lived in britain for a long time so it's pretty natural too. maybe i'll respond a little bit to what rebecca and lee had to say. and i was nodding madly when rebecca spoke because i do think that the narrative about what's happened to the media that says it's all worse than it used to be i

and krista freeland is now -- let me get the title correct. global editor at large for reuters. which is a highly, the

krista freeland is editor, and a democratic strategist with the center for american progress. krista, let me start with you. as you know, for months republicans have been accusing the president of having an environmental agenda to make gas prices go up. here was haley barber last summer. >> the president's policies have been clearly to drive up the cost of energy so americans would use less of it. that's not environmental policy, that's their policy. they think we'll make less pollution, making all these alternative energy sources more competitive. >> and newt gingrich earlier this year tied gas prices directly to the president. >> you believe that he wants to see more expensive gas, you have said? >> of course he does, charlie, you know that. he has said himself his policy has been outrageously anti-american energy. the high price of gasoline is a direct result of obama. >> mitt romney misquoted the president to make it seem like he wanted higher gas prices. here's that tape. >> there's no question that when he ran for office he wanted to see gas prices go up. he said energy p