with us now to lock at more of the wild weekend in plekz, we've got kristen tate, a contributor for "ll" and also democratic strategist emily tish-susman. thank you for joining me. kristen, i want to start with you first, and a bit of the pushback from president obama's own spokesperson who released a statement saying in part that "president obama nor my white house official ever ordered surveillance on any u.s. citizen and that any suggestion otherwise is false. what do you make of the -- >> we don't know what went on, but we need to be careful because the spokesman didn't say wiretapping didn't occur. what he said was that obama himself or the white house didn't directly order it. we don't have all the information, but i have been seeing a lot of reports that are kind of misconstruing that statement there. a senior u.s. official in a position to know says he and others have no idea what president trump is talking about. why do you believe the president is making these allegations? -- i cannot pretend to do that. look, we do know that a rumor like this was publish the on breitbart, a