our senator kristin gillibrand is very sympathetic and supporter of the dream act. we believe our efforts are not going unnoticed. we need more colleagues in the senate and congress to support people like gutierrez, chuck schumer and kirstin gillibrand and others so i feel like our efforts are being heard. >> just just follow-up on the numbers again. i spoke to an official at the white house this morning about those numbers and the one thing that stood out from what they said is, well, you also have to consider that some of those numbers were for the first part of the fiscal year '09 which, president bush was still in power, you know. obama only came in power in january. so that's their argument, some of those numbers reflect the outgoing bush administration. and also, the point about

our senator kristin gillibrand is very sympathetic and supporter of the dream act. we believe our efforts are not going unnoticed. we need more colleagues in the senate and congress to support people like gutierrez, chuck schumer and kirstin gillibrand and others so i feel like our efforts are being heard. >> just just follow-up on the numbers again. i spoke to an official at the white house this morning about those numbers and the one thing that stood out from what they said is, well, you also have to consider that some of those numbers were for the first part of the fiscal year '09 which, president bush was still in power, you know. obama only came in power in january. so that's their argument, some of those numbers reflect the outgoing bush administration. and also, the point about you not being satisfied with what they have done so far. in terms of border enforcement and other law enforcementment measures inside the u.s., the argument is that, to satisfy those conservatives that are pushing for tougher enforcement, to get them to come to the table and come to a