joe manchin, the democrat from west virginia, and senator kristin simoneau, the democrat from arizona. guest: it is interesting that they do call themselves, kratz, but that is why we don't look at what you call yourself by name but what you practice. it was joe manchin who also forced $15 minimum wage out of the recovery deal. it was in there, the house passed it. that had been in the republic -- recovery plan the president put forward, 32 million would have had black people lifted from the living wage, 62% of people would have been helped. and in west virginia alone, over 350,000 people less than a living wage. so he voted against his own constituency, so 900,000 people in west virginia who are poor, the majority happened to be white. now you have him and kyrsten sinema, and there may be other people, who decided they are going to support the u.s. chamber of commerce who is for the filibuster and against the voter people's act and living wage, rather than u.s. constitution, and that is why we went to west virginia. we marched with some 800 people. the majority were white. we call it