kristin sinema and senator manchin are holding the cards. and i will have two big interviews this hour, dr. anthony fauci joining me for the latest on boosters and covid cases. plus cases in the nba. and also bob woodward for the talk that his new book is causing on capitol hill. first, garrett haake, peter alexander. moderator of "washington week," and ashley parker. garrett, there is so much in the air this hour. nancy pelosi to me looked a little tentative to me like "this is not a done deal." >> oh, it is clear that this is far from a done deal. i spent a lot of time talking to house progressives saying they're right where they have been the whole time on this. they don't want to move forward on the infrastructure vote until they get at least a serious assurance that the senate will move on reconciliation. they're trying clearly to get to yes. but they're getting nothing back from the senate, and they're increasingly frustrated at joe manchin and kristin sinema. talking about the things they want to be different in this bill. i tried to

. >> don't stop us if you've heard this before but democratic senators joe manchin and kristin sinema haven't budged. today manchin issued his latest statement explaining his position. it reads in part, spending trillions nor on new government programs when we can't pay for the essential programs like social security and medicare is the definition of fiscal insanity. tonight president biden made another effort to engage with lawmakers, this time at the annual congressional baseball game. amid all the drama on capitol hill, if house committee investigating the january 6th riot and insurrection made good on its earlier promise that a second round of spooens were coming. they were issued to 11 people tied to the events. several of the newly subpoenaed are rally organizers from that day. earlier tonight one of the committee members explained just what it is they're looking for. >> the subpoenas that were just issued are really directed at the organizers of the rally of people who helped fund it, people who sought the permits. they were campaign people. we need to understand what was afoot

i think, i don't know really what the answer is with joe manchin and christensen a -- kristin sinema is. during reconstruction christians were not ardent believers in racial equality. there were a couple people who were. thaddeus stevens paul sumpter but they would say political rights does not mean you have to let the black person marry your daughter. we are talking about that. we are talking about social equality but they came to understand and people think of 14th and the 15th amendment says or most of us do anyway as these great accomplishments but they were post-partisan. the republican party had ideological interests in defending the black vote. the republican party was not viable in the south without the black vote. and the democratic party is in a similar position today to the extent that this is one of the reasons why there partisan voting protections is sort of ridiculous because that's how we got the 14th and 15th amendment and if you were willing to give veto power to accord that is willing to write the 15th amendment out of existence when it comes to the rights of black

how is it possible senators joe manchin and kristin sinema or mansinema, if they won't give a number they are comfortable in or want in or out of this package, how is that a negotiation? >> you just expressed a lot of fro frustrations coming out in the corners of the democratic party right now. while progressives may not see eye to eye on policy with manchin and sinema, they want them to give them something. give them a framework so progressives can say we can work with this and start this negotiation in public to try to get to a place where everybody is in a good place. but a lot of these discussions or important discussions are being done in private. senator sinema is meeting with key white house officials, senator manchin and sinema meeting in the white house. they're being very mum about what their asks are, what their concerns are and yes, what their top lines are. one of the issues overall is that at least on that broader $3.5 trillion reconciliation package, senator manchin says he doesn't feel any urgency to get that done timing wise. you hear a lot of progressives, senator b

and if they can't get joe manchin or kristin kyrsten sinema this bill is going nowhere. >> brian: they bernie sanders who is socialist. >> by the way though, brian, then we know who the partisans are and obstructionists. republicans tried to work with them on an important infrastructure bill. and if the democrats won't pass it in the house where they have complete control they are the obstructionists a and they are the partisans. >> brian: one more topic i know you are pro-vaccine. i got it you used to run a state. we remember it. now in new york governor cuomo started it and implemented by his successor kathy hochul mandating hospital workers and to a degree others, possibly police officers get vaccinated. it's causing a massive firing of medical workers over the past few weeks. the numbers are stunning, 175 in -- excuse me, you have the catholic health universities defying logic and they are firing 50 people. sunny brook university hospital 200 employees, north well 65 because people won't get vaccinated. you are pro-vaccine. is this a good move making people get vaccinated? >> vacci