kristin spalding, david page. is kristin spalding in the room? >> no. >> okay. david page, i saw you earlier. are you still here? >> thank you. because of the time limitation, i was hoping that everybody who is in favor of divestment could stand silently. and i'm hoping that all the people that come after me will say divest now and keep it at that. and it will allow the commissioners to have time to debate, deliberate and vote. thank you. >> thank you, mr. page. up next, norm degelman. >> i decline. >> mr. holtzman, are you still nearby? followed by kitty costello. teresa mcgovern. >> thank you. thank you for coming out. i'm wearing a t-shirt that said, "we are greater than fossil fuels." why are we still here? we voted to move to direct engagement in march, 2015, which was almost three years ago, so there's really no reason to have the same conversation today that we had in 2014 and '15. the amount of blood, sweat and tears, since my first board meeting is truly insane. putting money into s&p 500 that day would have made you hundred of millions of dollars on to