let's bring in jessica tarlov and kristin tate, a conservative columnist. kristin knows steve bannon personally because she spent two years working at bright bart. it's interesting, kristin. one of the last questions dealt with the fact that steve bannon did in fact communicate with the president after he left the white house. the question was asked, if he lost his mind, why was the president still communicating. sarah sanders answered, well, look, you can still talk to the guy. doesn't mean he didn't lose his mind if you want to take to the guy every once in a while. >> you know, trace, watching this press conference, i just had to laugh. it kind of encapsulated exactly why the american people are completely fed up with the media. we're dealing right now in our country a potential government shut down, we're coming up to a critical mid-term election and trying to figure out what to do with hundreds of thousands of illegals and reporter after reporter talk about -- >> trace: it is the topic of the day, kristin. we were going to talk about north korea. but le