before we begin our debate with congressman barney frank and "weekly standard" editor bill kristol, ar format. we'll begin with opening statements. each debater will have five minutes for his statement, and then two minutes to respond to his counterpart. we'll then move to the question and answer portion of the debate in which each speaker will again have up to five minutes to respond. finally, each debater will have the opportunity to offer two-minute concluding remarks. these time limits will be strictly enforced. now, i'll ask bill to kick off this year's ajc great debate. bill, thank you. >> thanks, jason. it's good to be here. i have a long association -- i don't personally have a long association. my family has a long association with the ajc, and i've always had a high regard, of course, for the organization. my father worked commentary way back in 1947 to 1952 when commentary was part of the ajc, and before the ajc moved into their fancy building. it was thought to be a fancy building in the mid-'50s when they moved in. i think they were further downtown originally in some eve

>> in the red corner bill kristol, one of america's most celebrated political commentators and a thorn in the side of the obama administration on everything from health care to u.s./israel relations. the coming presidential election in november is one in which ajc's priorities will be center stage. what is the best approach to iran, given the regime's continuing drive to obtain nuclear weapons capability? is the grand prize of an israeli/palestinian peace settlement something that has eluded successive presidents for more than half a century, any closer? and against the continued debate about homeland security, how close is the united states towards reducing its dependence on energy supplies from hostile states? over the next hour, these and other issues will be in the spotlight. so don't forget to submit your questions as we welcome you to ajc's great debate on election 2012. [ applause ] >> thank you. and thank you to linda and john. and welcome to this year's ajc great debate. i especially want to welcome our viewers who are watching on c-span across the country and around the world

congressman barney frank, thank you, bill kristol, weekly standard.k you all for being part of this year's ajc great debate. [applause] i'd like you to make sure you, please, stay in your seats. we're about to begin the next portion of the program. please stay while i exit the debaters out. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> and a reminder, we have more road to the white house coverage coming up this weekend on the c-span networks. the libertarian party holding its 2012 convention this weekend in las vegas to pick their presidential nominee. our coverage on c-span begins at 9 eastern tonight with a two-hour debate between the candidates for the libertarian presidential nomination that includes former new mexico governor and former republican presidential candidate gary johnson. then at noon eastern on saturday the delegates will hear candidate speeches and vote on the nominee. that's also live on c-span. also on c-span this weekend, president obama holding a rally, a campaign rally with first lady michelle obama in richmond, virginia. that gets u

the lakers have jack and the clippers at bill kristol. chris paul to grips paul to put l.a.four points. the grizzlies down one. he double pumps and almost gets it to fall. the clippers and on for their second one point when of the season they lead the series 2-1. >>> the pacers are fired up. george l. fitch the floater. gives india a lead late in overtime. he misses the jumper as time expires. the pacers went, when all 1-99 to take a 3-1 series lead. >>> they met one more play than we did, that is exactly what happened over 53 minutes then made one more play than we did, that it's done it. >>> steve nash put the santa clara basketball program on the map and of the men's tennis team hopes to make a breakthrough. >>> cal and stanford run the bay area as far as college tennis is concerned for the last couple of years was not up and we are getting closer we played stanford very closed earlier this year. >>> santa clara may get another shot at stanford the broncos in the ncaa tournament for the first time in school history, the head coach was not in a hurry to share the good news

he has manage to run on you can say as bill kristol pointed out.e didn't talk about obama care or stimulus and never mentioned that word. but the fact is, there are indicators for the american people and kids coming out of college and looking for a job, that say we are on a right track i disagree with my colleagues here. >> chris: having said that. economic news and we just got the latest economic report for april on friday and the news was not good and we'll put it on the screen are are upon i jobs created and unemployment rate went down because 342,000 left the work force and the percentage of the americans in the work force those who have jobs or looking for jobs is 63.6 percent. and the president does note that the private sector has created more than four million jobs over the last 26 months. can he sell that as a recovery? >> he can sell it razz eye very medoicre improvement. what will dohe say in october and if he makes the voice of bush second term. scariest moment is in terms of the economy and 2008. that was under president bush's watch a

bill kristol of "weekly standard." juan williams, columnist with the hill.t charles krauthammer. okay, charles, you just heard the former bush administration official questioning candidate obama versus president obama. we often at this panel put things through the prism of what happens if this was during the bush administration? and this story. >> it would have been a lot different. we can understand why obama is doing this. why they clearly leaked this to the press. they want obama to look tough, hawkish. part of that is what is happening around the world. look at massacres in syria, he is standing by. look at negotiation with iran over the nukes. there is a collapse in baghdad. look at the way that the russians are treating the united states. putin dissing obamaly by not showing up at the g-8 summit as a way to slap obama in the face. he does this without any reaction. so here is a story that shows he is a tough guy and kills by remote control. there are a few problem with this. number onebe, military strategy. we have aren't getting intelligence. this is

bill kristol of the weekly standard. a.b. stoddard from the hill newspaper. former state department official and fox news contributor liz cheney and fox news political analyst juan will with am juan williams. he wants everyone to get a fair shot while he says romney and the republicans want bigger tax cuts for the wealthy. bigger spending cuts for the poor and the meddle class. is that a winning argument? >> i don't know. there wasn't a whole lot about his actual record in his speech that i saw and i missed the long defense of obama care. his signature achievement, his legislative achievement and long defense of the stimulus. i think he would like to frame this as romney is going back to the bush years and a rubber stamp for this horrible republican congress and he is still running as mr. hope and change and all the stuff he has done for the past three and a half years don't worry about that too much. >> chris: i have to say the cynicism remark. i was struck, a.b. about how little the president talked about what he has done in the three and half years in wash

. >> thank you, congressman barney frank, bill kristol, "the weekly standard." thank you for being part of our debate. i would like you to make sure -- please stay in your seats. we're with b to begin the next portion of the program. please stay oop while i exit the debaters out. >>> live coverage to tell you about. at 10:00 a.m. eastern, a house subcommittee holds a hearing to examine several legislative proposals for overhauling the federal reserve. one introduced by ron paul would abolish the federal reserve system. other proposals being considered would seek to reform the central bank. and at 3:00 eastern a senate house conference committee will work on a bill to extend funding for highway and surface transportation programs for another two years. congress passed a temporary extension early this year which expires at the end of june. you can watch high coverage here on c-span3. >>> and to us, north carolina will vote on a state constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. we'll talk to darlene lipper. then a discussion on the role of federal lobbying. howar

bill gates was pied and so was bill kristol and ralph nader, ann coulter ducked.n friedman, he was 86 years old. they throw glitter bombs, buckets of shiny glitter. here they got newt. rick santorum handled it well. the ghrit ser annoying, hard to get out of your hair and clothing, better than shooting people. despite my complaints about stupid restrictions on speech, free speech is for the most part alive and well. so what if pat buchanan or naomi or i get fired. we work for private companies. i reveal that my bosses at abc would not let me do stories on certain topics. that made me angry, it made me move to fox, but much as i resent the narrow mindedness of abc bosses i can't complain i was censored. when they refuse to air something that is not censorship, that is editorial control. it's their job to say yes or no. if i wanted to say things that abc did not like, i could go elsewhere and eventually i did. america has plenty of media companies. if i get fired here i'll get a job elsewhere. we have choices, but we have only one government, no real choice there. t

bill gates was pied and so was bill kristol and ralph nader, ann coulter ducked.they pied milton friedman, he was 86 years old. they throw glitter bombs, buckets of shiny glitter. here they got newt. rick santorum handled it well. the ghrit ser annoying, hard to get out of your hair and clothing, better than shooting people. despite my complaints about stupid restrictions on speech, free speech is for the most part alive and well. so what if pat buchanan or naomi or i get fired. we work for private companies. i reveal that my bosses at abc would not let me do stories on certain topics. that made me angry, it made me move to fox, but much as i resent the narrow mindedness of abc bosses i can't complain i was censored. when they refuse to air something that is not censorship, that is editorial control. it's their job to say yes or no. if i wanted to say things that abc did not like, i could go elsewhere and eventually i did. america has plenty of media companies. if i get fired here i'll get a job elsewhere. we have choices, but we have only one government, no real

this is why he makes such a handy tool for the bill kristols of the world.ey can use romney to get what they've never gotten from barack obama, a useful tool. this is the giant reason to fear romney's election. not that he may turn right on his own, but that he doesn't

this is why he makes such a handy tool for the bill kristols of the world.ey can use romney to get what they've never gotten from barack obama, a useful tool. this is the giant reason to fear romney's election. not that he may turn right on his own, but that he doesn't care about any of the issues of government here in america or america's place in the world as much as the guys who do care very much, and who will push him and shape him to their needs and ideologies once he's in power. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" tonight from new york. wall street fat cats are asking president obama to apologize for being so mean! tonight, i'll prove how the 1% should apologize.

bill kristol, editor of weekly standard. charles lane, opinion writer for the "washington post."cated columnnist charles krauthammer. bill, pete king, congressman from new york is charging that it was because of this loose talk that the pakistanis started rounding up people. eventually led to from alphieti. >> hard to judge from the outside. too much loose talk in general. we know they are concerned, briefing the filmmakers about how it happened and producing the navy seals in the unusual way from the defense department to make sure the hollywood movie came out. i guess whether it was loose talk or pakistanis discovered it on their own. >> bret: the bottom line here is that there will be some look in to this, chuck, to see how this happens. everyone is pushing back saying that the pakistanis are over the line with this action. >> there was a shot to cut their aid by $33 million. that is appropriate. the best way for the administration to come back from this is to be aggressive and unequivocal about getting this man to freedom. if he cooperated with the u.s. intelligence, we don't

>> in the red corner, bill kristol. the editor of "the weekly standard." a thorn in the side of the obama administration on anything from health care to u.s. foreign relations. what is the best approach to iran given the regime's continuing drive to contain nuclear weapons capability? is the grand prize of an israeli palestinians the sediment -- peace settlement any closer? then, the increased debate about homeland security. how close is the u.s. towards reducing its independence on energy supplies from hostile states. over the next hour, these and other issues will be in the spot light. did not forget as we welcome to the great debate on alexian 2012 -- election 2012. [applause] >> thank you. thank you to linda and john and welcome to this year's ajc great debate. i want to welcome our viewers who are watching on c-span. our subject is the 2012 american elections. its implications for domestic and foreign policy, its specific implications for developments in the middle east and for the security of israel, its meaning as a yardstick of political attitudes

bill kristol in the forthcoming "weekly standard" has an edtory where he suggests that any rational lookould conclude with hillary clinton replacing joe biden on the ticket. i'm not sure why bill is making this arguement to the president. but it is one that might be considered. >> shannon: okay. speaking of rich people, today facebook went public. charles, what do you make of the hype? do you think it will continue to hold on? we see g.m. pulling ads saying it wasn't a good pay off for us. is it good payoff for those who got in today? >> if i knew, i'd be rich. in there on the ipo. i don't know. if you look at the smaller company, one of the companies he bought few weeks ago for $1 billion, has 18 employees, 13 employees no, revenue. this is extremely speculative. you create something on the net with a buzz. with a huge following. and you expect you will find a way to monotize it. facebook was to some extent from what i hear from experts evaluation about -- valuation is four times as high as it ought to be given revenue streams now. but they will think of new revenue streams. it's an inc

institute --www.ncicap.org--] >> and coming up in a few hours, a debate between barney zprank william kristol. that's at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span2. and our camping 2012 -- campaign 2012 coverage continues with the libertarian party national convention. that's live here on c-span at 9:00 p.m. eastern. and in 45 minutes, former comptroller general david walker talks about the latest unemployment numbers and the economy. he will discuss washington economic policy going forward. and then house intelligence committee ranking member jane harman discusses u.s. foreign policy and the evolving situation with chinese situation with chinese activists.

bill kristol of the weekly standard. former democratic senator evan byah. karl rove and democratic strategic joe trippi. there were competing agendas. on the one hand, the head of germany and they are pushing for more austerity to bring some of the huge debt out of countries like greece and italy and spain and then on the other side the new french president francois hollande. i covered them for years the g 8 summits and mel mows afterwards of understanding. hard to parts them. do you have any sense that one side prevailed? >> if you read the 39 point declaration. having trouble falling asleep last night, it was helpful. be one word that isn't in there. debt. there is a european debt crisis and that is not a fundamental problem. let have growth and more spending. incidentally higher taxes. i think we have a clear choice internationally now on economic policy. more spending and higher taxes and that is what they are both for. that is actually what the policies they want and the conservative alternative which has been followed in germany and sweden and canada

bill kristol, and a.b. stoddard, and liz cheney, and juan williams. obama made the same bake argument in the campaign launch bill that he has been making actually for some months now, he wants everyone to get a fair shot and he says romney and the republicans want bigger tax cuts, and bigger spending cuts for the poor, the middle class. is that a winning argument? >> i don't know. there was not a lot about his record in the speech i saw. i missed signature achievement, legislative achievement, and the stimulus, so, he would like to frame this as romney is going back to the bush years and rubber starch for the horrible republican congress and still running as mr. hope and change and all the stuff he has done, do not worry about that. >>chris: i have to say, i was struck, a.b., by how little he talked about what he has done in 3 1/2 years in washington and he wants to frame this as a choice define him standing up for the middle class and the poor and romney will protect the rich. >>guest: that is why romney used the same words because the president cann

thank you, bill kristol. thank you, all, wering if a part of this great debate. make sure you please stay in your seats as we're about to begin the next portion of the program. please stay while the others come out. [applause] glue here's a look at the live programs today across the c-spa: >> the administration is requested over $10 million to support drug education programs and to fund expanded access to treatment. from the center for american progress here in washington, d.c., this is about 48 minutes. >> sharing the concern that i think many of us in public health and the safety community share about drug policy. over the past few years, this public debate on drug policy is between two views. let me characterize the views for you. on the one side, we have a very vocal, organized, well-funded advocates who insist drug legalization is a silver bullet for addressing our nation's drug problem. we have the other side. the other side of the debate are those who insist that a law enforcement only war on drugs approach, the one that was just mentioned, is the way to c

>> on the other end, bill kristol. the coming presidential election in november is one in which ajc 's priorities will be center stage. what is the best approach to iran, given the regime's continued drive to obtain nuclear weapons capability? is the grand prize of an israeli-palestinian peace settlement something that has eluded success of presidents for more than half a century, any closer? and then, continue debate about homeland security. how close is the united states towards reducing its dependence on energy supplies from high style states? over the next hour, these and other issues will be in the spotlight. -- how close is the united states towards reducing its dependence on energy supplies from hostile states? [applause] >> thank you. thank you to linda and john, and welcome to this year's ajc great debate. i especially want to welcome our viewers who are watching on c- span across the country and around the world. our subject is the 2012 american election. its implications for domestic and foreign policy, it's

kristol -- mr. iscoll's relationship back on track. he had instituted severance negotiations. tisquantum out as quickly and cheaply as possible. it is in relation to that process. >> you disagree with the tribunal's findings. >> yes, i do. >> that is as far as i can take that. >> the questions i had for you. was there anything you wanted to say? >> can i make one point in relation to the theory that there was some kind of deal between the news corp. for news international and the conservative party over the issue of b sky b. if there was a deal and there was a conspiracy, why was a one- man given a job? it is the prime minister's decision to decide to help with brief in his cabinet. there was this conspiracy that david cameron was going to return the favor to news international, why did he give it to a competitive member of the liberal democrat party? >> mr. kimball was already the business secretary in may, 2010, was he not? the deal was before that. it was not announced until june. >> there is a conspiracy that suggests this deal was done before. >> it is an advocacy point r

tomorrow morning, barney frank and bill kristol debate issues being talked about this year. congressman frank announced he will be retiring at the end of the term. he was first elected in 1980. join us live 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span2. coming up friday, david walker will discuss the latest unemployment figures and take your calls on the economy. then, jane harman addresses u.s. foreign policy and the intelligence community. she will also talk about chinese activist chen guangcheng and the afghan security deal signed this week. finally, america by the numbers looks at the u.s. prison system with james lynch and michael jacobson. they will analyze the growth of the correction population, reason for imprisonment, and more. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> this weekend, said jones documents the war against al qaeda since 9/11. he is interviewed by toledo share. saturday night at 10:00 a.m. eastern. also, your questions and comments for tom brokaw. book tv, every weekend on cspan2. >> bin laden had a different outfits. i have to confess that i had insider knowledge. i wo

bill kristol dubbed the preference for economic stimulus as "the obama alternative." will this dick? will be romney administration be willing to endorse the german model? they can point to their success and shepherding nato partners closer to a missile defense operation. they wrote that the administration has a different relationship than the coalitions of the women. the secretary gordon made a defense for that. while the nato summit had its share of successes, european partners and not agree to new financial commitment to afghan security forces. they did mention the political commitment. nato did not press forward on enlargement. secretary clinton did meet with four aspiring applicants. on the face of it, at this does not reflect enormous progress compared to december 2009 when europeans announced only a modest increase to mask the last american surge in afghanistan. the european contribution is down to 1/3 in the last decade. what lessons can this panel drop from the president's difficulty in extracting resources? is there a structural reticence because everyone's h

kristol -- mr. iscoll's relationship back on track. he had instituted severance negotiations. tisquantum out as quickly and cheaply as possible. it is in relation to that process. >> you disagree with the tribunal's findings. >> yes, i do. >> that is as far as i can take that. >> the questions i had for you. was there anything you wanted to say? >> can i make one point in relation to the theory that there was some kind of deal between the news corp. for news international and the conservative party over the issue of b sky b. if there was a deal and there was a conspiracy, why was a one- man given a job? it is the prime minister's decision to decide to help with brief in his cabinet. there was this conspiracy that david cameron was going to return the favor to news international, why did he give it to a competitive member of the liberal democrat party? >> mr. kimball was already the business secretary in may, 2010, was he not? the deal was before that. it was not announced until june. >> there is a conspiracy that suggests this deal was done before. >> it is an advocacy point r

bill kristol recently dubbed it as the hollande/obama alternative. well, will this stick?would the romney administration be willing to endorse the german model? on defense issues the obama administration can point to its success in shepherding nato partners closer to missile defense cooperation. the national security adviser wrote recently that the administration has a different qualitative relationship than the coalitions of the willing, and we heard secretary gordon make a case for that. but while the recent nato summit in chicago had its share of successes, european partners did not yet agree to new financial commitments to afghan security force bees, although -- forces, although secretary gordon did mention a political commitment. and of course, nato did not press forward on enlargement, although secretary clinton did meet with the four aspiring applicants and endorsed an open-door policy. now, on the face of it this does not reflect enormous progress compared to december 2009 when europeans announced only a modest increase of forces to match the last american surge. i

moments, the debate between massachusetts congressman barney frank and the weekly standard's william kristol. then remarks from world bank president robert zoellick, and the discussion on the future of relief work. after that former chairman michael powell take part in a panel discussion about narrowing the digital divide between minorities and white americans. >>> some live coverage tuesday on c-span 3 to tell you about. at 10:00 a.m. eastern, a house subcommittee holds a hearing to examine several legislative proposals for overhauling the federal reserve. one of the measures introduced by texas congressman and republican presidential candidate ron paul would abolish the federal reserve system. other proposals being considered would seek to reform the central bank. and at 3:00 eastern, a senate house conference committee will work on a bill to extend funding for highway and surface transportation programs for another two years. congress passed a temporary extension earlier this year, which expires at the end of june. you can watch live coverage here on c-span 3. >>> this week, live from lon