>> guest: and my son is bill kristol, william kristol, otherwise known as bill kristol, who's always identified as the republican strategist. i'm not sure i know what that means. c-span: and your husband you give a lot of credit to in this book as you start it out, saying you almost can't give him enough credit. and who is your husband? >> guest: irving kristol, who's a writer, an editor and publisher and who's acquired the tag, the label of the godfather of neoconservatism. c-span: so what does that make you? >> guest: it makes me the wife of irving kristol and the mother of bill kristol is what it makes me. c-span: are you a republican strategist or a neoconservative? >> guest: i'm not a republican strategist. in private life i suppose i'd be a neoconservative. as far as my writing goes, i'm simply a historian. c-span: how did you and irving kristol originally hook up? >> guest: that's a rather peculiar story; it goes back to our youth. i was very young. i think i was 18 when we met, and i think he was probably all of 20 or something like that, and we were both trotskyists. we were

and bill kristol, one of the president's harshest critics. is climate change the biggest threat we face? tonight on "crossfire." >>> welcome to "crossfire." i'm van jones is on the left. >> i'm newt gingrich on the right. in the "crossfire" tonight, two guests help us clarify john kerry's priorities. today a traditional secretary of state might have called a news conference to address at length the near civil war in the ukraine or the challenges we face in syria and iraq or iran's nuclear program. even the problems in venezuela. a real secretary of state would focus on the real world. instead we have a secretary of state who says the biggest threat we face is global warming. i want you to hear it again. >> in a sense, climate change can now be considered another weapon of mass destruction perhaps even the world's most fearsome weapon of mass destruction. >> that statement is delusional. it's perfectly fine if you're in the u.s. senate which has a hundred members and anyone can be randomly weird. but delusional thinking is totally inexcusable

and we welcome back our abc news contributor, bill kristol, editor of the weekly standard. welcome gentlemen. tom, i want to start with you. you have ukraine's president, who has virtually vanished. now trying to rally his supporters. new elections, protesters feeling they have a victory. what happens next in this country with no money and no unity? >> well, i think the good news, martha, is the fact this happened from the bottom up. the west didn't do this, the united states didn't, the eu, the ukrainian people did this. that's important to remember. what we learn from experiences like egypt. we saw bottom-up ousting of a long-time dictator. what we learned -- >> seems similar to egypt. >> it does at many levels. a failing state. but also what we learned from egypt, it's not about the morning after, it's about the morning after the morning after. the morning after, everyone celebrates getting rid of the leader everyone hated. but what you discovered in egypt, there was a huge diversity of opinion of where to go next. what they wanted to be free to do. and we'll face the sa

people like bill kristol are getting to him.s part of the president's conversation with bill o'reilly on sunday when he asked about the irs. >> we still don't know what happened there. >> bill, we do. that's not what happened. folks have again had multiple hearings on this. i mean, these kinds of things keep on surfacing. in part because you and your tv station will promote them. >> and then paul, the president went on to call o'reilly unfair and told the new yorker he's had trouble persuading the republican base he's not the caricature you see on fox news. is he focusing on them, giving them too much power by the president of the free world keeping talking about them? >> that's a fair point. he was in a conversation with mr. o'reilly. i suspect if you were entering him, he would not have gone out of his way to mention it. fox news is a comedy channel that pretends to be news. it's hilarious. >> i'm sure none of them have ever seen it. >> i love that. let me give you a fair point on the irs, for example. how much did fox cover t

i want to show you what bill kristol wrote. he said bringing immigration to the floor has a circular firing squad instead of shooting together at obamacare and other big-government liberalism. there's no reason to act this year. don't try. your response? >> we don't know who's coming and going, interior enforcement. you talked about the boston bombers. it's not a responsible thing to do. it's important you brought this up after the executive orders. all republicans agree that we don't trust the president to enforce the law. look at the standards that the republican leadership put out, security first. first we have to secure the border, have interior enforcement, a worker verification system, a visa tracking system, they have to be in law and in practice and independently verified before the rest of the law can occur. it's a nonamnesty approach. the other concern they don't want us in conference and compromise to a bad law. we won't that let that happen. we won't go to the kchbs with the senate. this is not an issue with a deadl

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bill kristol, editor of the weekly standard. the washington post, and syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer, author of "the things that matter." so here are the latest jobs numbers. only 113,000 jobs created in january, as compared to a monthly average of 194,000 last year. but the unemployment rate still dropped from 6.7% to 6.6%. bill, take all of that into account. what does it tell us about the recovery? sdm it really has been a recovery that has been good for the -- well, if i could sound like a left-winger, good for the 1%, good for capital, and bad for middle class americans. that's what the job numbers mean. the number of people no longer even searching for a job has increased. lo long-term unemployment has increased. if they could have a middle class message, the great irony is president obama, one of the most liberal presidents we have had, is doing great for the top 1%. >> despite all this talk about income inequality. >> >> it's increased under president obama. >> the economy faces further headwinds from obamacar

joining me now is bill kristol. and chris kofinis. chris, let me start with you. when is enough enough on this? democrats in new jersey have this committee looking into this. both chairs are both democrats looking for a smoking gun since october. so far they have not found one. regardless of the look and feel of the administration and the damage that could have been done from that, the reality of did he lie or not, there has been no smoking gun. it's starting to feel like a witch hunt, isn't it. >> no, i don't think it's a witch hunt. you have a situation where as we all know, the governor's staff basically orchestrated a bridge closing to punish political targets. so the question becomes not only just in terms of what the governor knew, but how does he run his administration? i think these investigations are ongoing. there's multiple ones. when they come out with the reports, we'll know exactly what he knew or what he didn't. at the end of the day, i think there's a bigger part to this. the bigger question for me is how did he not know? how was it possible that h