>> kroeger. bright bart shops at kroeger. so you can't get out there and say things are good.e farm they have these ornaments i saw not a single kamala or joe, i saw fauci and b.j. whether trump was president people would send me trump pens you click it, it's like build the wall. remember obama he put his face on everything. i thought it was tacky but again when you have a passionate relationship with the candidate, we like ike. they were selling reagan-bush sweatshirts ten years ago. you can't sell them. i'm beginning to think maybe they're right. maybe he's not really president. >> they should just target products. >> or maybe he's not real. >> jessica, you did have a lot of democrats come out and say we are not going to use the term bidenomics anymore because they realize it's hurting them. >> that's their prerogative and people want to campaign with him. some people don't. jesse and i have discussed this. bob heads don't equal votes and people slowing at rallies don't equal votes. people packing stadiums, hillary clinton was our nominee. 2020 joe sitting in the basement. t