today the president takes part in two town hall meetings, including one at a kroger supermarket. cnn's ed henry has the dust-up on aisle one. >> reporter: they're rolling out the red carpet in rural virginia. but the president could get a chilly reception in the frozen food aisle where we found this clerk, a mccain voter who fears health care reform's being rushed just like the stimulus. >> like the last package they pushed through, i think it was too hurried, a lot of mistakes, a lot of things that shouldn't be. >> reporter: but kathy montgomery, assistant produce manager, voted for the president and is pumped up he's getting tough with congress. thousands of this region showed up in a health expo offering free medical care this past weekend, exposing a problem all too familiar that doctors hear. >> clearly we all recognize, any physician in the hospital would recognize that it is a system in crisis. >> reporter: but like most employees back at the kroger supermarket, produce manager steve shipplet gets generous health benefits. despite being a obama voter, he's nervous the bene

i can tell you, i spoke to a lot of employees here at the kroger in virginia. they want those kind of details. they are telling me, both democrats and republicans, who voted for obama and mccain, they want the president to spell out more specifics. i also tlaernd people on both sides are saying, they are willing, even though they have generous benefits here. they have health insurance. they are willing to pay more taxes if the president asked them. they do twoont try to help. they do think there is a crisis. they are willing to pay more, take more in, if you will, and step up to cover more people. a lot of the president's critics believe that people don't want to pay more in taxes. kyra? >> they didn't just pick bristol by accident. let's talk more about the significance. >> this is the birth place of country music in bristol, virginia. they count that. it is also the place where there was a little bit of rebirth of the obama campaign. when he finally finish off those long democratic primaries with hillary clinton, he launched his general election campaign righ

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there's kroger's supermarket. he's going to be taking questions from a town hall meeting there in the produce department. he's got an opening statement, basically repeat what is he said earlier in the day, but i'm especially interested to see what questions he's asked and the answers. we'll go there live. >>> averting a massive financial meltdown. president obama says that's exactly what his administration has done by backing the bank bailout, auto rescue plan and enacting the economic stimulus package. here's what he told that town hall meeting in raleigh, north carolina, earlier today. >> so, it will take time to achieve a complete recovery. we're not going to rest until anyone who's looking for work can find a job. but -- but there should be little debate that the steps we took, taken together, have helped stop our economic freefall. >> president obama predicts the stimulus plan will create hundreds of thousands of jobs, but some of those positions are not necessarily permanent and not necessarily sitting well

i want to thank all of the employees and managers here at kroger who have been a great host to me today. this is the first time i have been in a grocery store in a while. [laughter] they do not let me do my own shopping. i miss it. i may pick up some food on the way out. [laughter] i just wanted you to know. there are a few other people i want to acknowledge. the ceo is here. where did he go? there he is over there. [applause] uscw shop store is here. hello. [applause] a few people want to acknowledge, the mayor is here. [applause] good to see you again. if you people cannot be here, your outstanding governor, you're senators, and i want to give a special shot out to my friend and your congressman. [applause] he cannot be here today. rick is working hard in washington as we speak. he was an early supporter of my campaign. he is an important voice in our efforts to reform our health- care system. he is a leader in guaranteeing that clean coal technologies are a part of our clean energy future and will create jobs all across the country and right here in this area. i want you all to no th

that would help elevate kroger supermarket. >>> banita jacks is accused of killing her daughters.a is live with more. good morning. >> we are expecting to learn the verdict at 11:00 this morning. the judge has been taking into account testimony and arguments from prosecutors and defense attorneys. duri the trial, neighbors and relatives, scientists, and police officers the stands, giving their account of what happened in 2008. there was a videotape between banita jacks and d.c. detectives hours after her bodies were found. she told police her children were possessed by demons and said one by one her children died in their sleep over a 10- day period. prosecutors say she strangled her three youngest girls. the defense said the prosecution failed to prove that jacks was guilty. they said why is it when torturing is going on, there was not a single screen >> heard > it was just her and her children -- >> it was just her and her children. >> she is not guilty of murder. >> she is charged with 12 counts. because of the ages of her children, she faces life in prison without parole. pame

ed, what kind of welcome can the president expect at this kroger?people probably know i started my first job in a grocery store. this is a homecoming for me. what the president's going to find, a pretty warm welcome from employees here. they've been working all night to get this place ready. what's significant is these kroger employees have health insurance. the president's been trying to tailor his sales pitch to people who have insurance. the assumption back in washington among the president's critics has been people with insurance don't want to pay higher taxes to cover the uninsured. we found that assumption may just be not true. they're rolling out the red carpet in rural virginia. but the president could get a chilly reception in the frozen food aisle where we found a mccain voter, a clerk, who fears health reform is being rushed just like the stimulus. >> like the last package that he pushed through, i think it was too hurried and a lot of mistakes, a lot of things that shouldn't be. >> reporter: but kathy month gom which, the assistant produ

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part of the reason we are doing this town hall at kroger is because kroger provide health- insurance to its associates. as many as it can. that is significantly different than a lot of companies out there who are not providing health insurance for their employees. in some cases is it not because they do not want to, it is because they cannot afford to. health care is going up so fast that i hear from small and large businesses that say it is unsustainable. our costs are going a 20% or 20 -- or 30% a year. over time, either employers are either pushing more costs on to their employees in the form of higher premiums and deductibles for they to stop providing health insurance altogether. that is why even if you have health insurance, you need to make sure we can turn the system around. premiums are going up 1/3 faster. we spend $6,000 more per person on health care in this country than any other nation on earth. we are not getting a good deal for the amount of money that the year spending. -- that we are spending. if you were children spinning 6000 lots more on your card in your neighbo

it seems like the president should spend a lot of time in krogers. looks like a pretty friendly country. thanks a lot. appreciate it. traveling with the president. got left behind today, though e-didn't you? >> that's right. thanks a lot. >> i'm on the way home now. look forward to it. you have a good trip. new evidence as he tries to sell the health care plan. new gallup poll shows 44% of the americans believe it would show the president's approval rating slumping again down to 53%. a decline of 6% over the past ten days. turning to international news tonight, the obama administration is increasing support for ousting president of honduras. he's a close ally of venezuela's leftist strong man. hugo chavez and state department revoked diplomatic visas of the officials serving in the new honduran government. he's in nicaragua one month after reov moved from power over a dispute over the constitutionality of his actions. new government said he'll arrest him if he tries to enter honduras. coming up next, rising concern about the danger to all of us from

: the meeting was held at a kroger grocery store. they highlight their health insurance program. >>> a story we brought you on bruce johnson's blog on wusa9.com. >>> the district's plan to make ends meet, it is going to cost you. under a tentative agreement the city would hike its sales tax, gasoline tax and tobacco tax. the it would not include a hike to personal income tax or property tax. a public meeting will be held tomorrow. >>> the university of maryland is making budget cuts and students will notice school president says there will be a hiring freeze in college park and maybe layoffs. for students, that means larger classes, fewer courses and a cut in student services. >>> it is time for a "living $mart" report. jessica doyle says uncle sam is getting a good return on his investments. >> how's a 26% rate of return sound to you. >> i'd like that. >> right now that is pretty good. almost too much tohope for but that is what fotaxpayers are getting on their investment in american express. edthcre cr itcard company paid its porti

. >> today it at the kroger, beer was on sale for the president, a reference to the beer summit that he is holding with harvard professor henry louis gates and police officer joseph crowley. the president was there to talk about health care. today it was back to bristol, va., for barack obama, a town where voters surprised expectations by backing his presidential campaign. now he wants voters to back his health-care overhaul, insisting changes are necessary. >> i think the american people even though they are suspicious of what goes on in washington recognize that when we meet a challenge, we did not shy away. >> even voters who support the overall say slow down. am i think it will happen. but i think we should slow down. >> i would like them to slow down. i would like them to take time and understand the pluses and minuses because it is a lot of money. >> earlier, the president was in raleigh, north carolina. >> i cannot help but remember those same critics contributed to wait 1.3 trillion dollar deficit that i inherited when i took office. >> the president says his plan would cover

. >>> president obama held a town hall meeting at a kroger grocery store in bristol, va., outlining hishealth-care plan. it this comes as the white house and house leaders have worked out a compromise deal that would exempt small businesses from having the offer coverage and would also reduce subsidies to help people purchase their own health insurance and would make any government sponsored insurance plan negotiate payment rates with medical providers. >>> a setback in its plant in to protect our food. the house bill giving the fda more authority failed. the legislation would have required additional government inspection after the salmonella outbreak in peanuts. a m to the government crackdown on text messaging while behind the wheel has reached the capital. of 14 states have some type of ban on texting. the district, maryland, and virginia all have laws in place. john gonzalez has that story. >> this is the question, is texting while driving more dangerous than drinking and driving? today, several senators said they believe it is and they want a federal nationwide ban to go into effe

. >> and supervalu compared to kroger or whole foods. very cheap on the valuation and new c.e.o. looking to turn it around. sfl they are near the 12-month low. >> it may be cheap but i don't know if there is a lot of value. i'm not sure i believe the management and they have not proven themselves truly competitive. david: you guys are going in opposite directions. >> i say amerigroup and regardless of what happens -- david: just when the feds are about to take it over? >> we will have more of the services so while there are cost pressures there is opportunity. david: john, managed healthcare? >> minus 2.4% is in the exciting. i don't think they run the business very well. david: you are excited by bond? >> i do because this is inflation protected bonds outside the u.s. when the world dumps dollars and the inflation rate go up you get a premium and make a gain. >> when i see the black helicopters overhead i will say ok. but if you want to protect yourself fidelity and vanguard have cheaper mutual funds. >> these you tips and u.s. bonds, i want non-u.s. bonds. david:

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president obama just now getting to a kroger supermarket in bristol, virginia. that's where he's about to hold a second town hall meeting today all about health care. this event comes as we're getting word of a major agreement that would clear the way for a house vote on its version of the health care reform bill. we again wanted to show you him just now getting there. back this washington, the final holdo holdout. they said it cost too much. earlier in raleigh, the president was reassuring his audiences that in spite of what critics say, people shouldn't be afraid of reform. >> i have been as clear as i can. under the reform i proposed, if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan. these folks need to stop scaring everybody. >> even with the agreement today, the house measure may not head to the floor for a vote until after the august recess. >>> lawyers are hoping a jailhouse interview with bernard madoff will mean more money can be returned to his victims. attorneys representing some of the v

deal making was going on in the back rooms president obama was standing in the produce section of a kroger supermark in bristol, virginia. >> no longer will insurance companies be allowed to drop somebody from coverage if they become seriously ill. >> aides say it will help to cover costs to head off serious injury in the furniture. >>> a miniature health care crisis. four patients are showing symptoms of the h1n1. they have been quarantined. two became ill just yesterday. the other two showed symptoms a few days ago. they are said to be improving and should be back at work this week. >> parts of our area are having to clean up from some strong storm activity tonight. folks went running for cover when the heavy rain started following in waldorf. rains started moving across chesapeake bay. tony pan is actually in front of the weather map with the forecast. >> thank you, derek. haven't seen confirmation of actual tornadoes on the ground but we had several tornado warninerins arli tevening and inin gs e arete prty quiet now. let's takea prlook at live dopple9000 ta alekettli for you. got some

right now he's meeting with people at bristol, virginia, inside a kroger supermarket. earlier today he addressed about 2,000 people in raleigh, north carolina, and he took on critics who say he wants to socialize medical care. >> nobody is talking about some government takeover of health care. i'm tired of hearing that. [ applause ] i have been as clear as i can be. under the reform i've proposed, if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you keep your health care plan. >> the president has also tweaked his message a bit. he's putting more emphasis on protecting our access to good health care by uncluttering the insurance process. >>> five republican senators have said they will vote to confirm judge sonia sotomayor to the u.s. supreme court. the senate judiciary committee voted yesterday to approve sotomayor and just one republican joined democrats to support her. the full senate vote comes next week and sotomayor is expected to easily win confirmation and become the first hispanic on the high court. >>> the cuz mother accused o

. >>> tomorrow we will find president obama in virginia at a kroger supermarket. selling health care reform. it will be a town hall style meeting just like the one he had today here in dc with the aarp. >> as costs balloon so does medicare's budget and unless we act within a decade, within a decade the medicare trust fund will be in the red. >> on capitol hill both the house an senate are still trying to hammer out that health care legislation. there is word under one senate proposal that a nonprofit co-op would sell health insurance to compete with private industry. that rather than give the federal government a central role in the marketplace. >>> meantime president obama's cabinet members will spend part of their weekend working. there are 22 officials with cabinet rank and they all plan to meet with white house senior staffers at blair house this friday and saturday. six months into the obama administration the purpose of this working weekend is to review the president's agenda and look forward. >>> today a handful of cabinet members were up to their eyeballs

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traveled beyond the beltwayo promote national health insurance, holding a town hall meeting at a kroger supermarket. earlier in the day, he held another town hall meeting in raleigh, north carolina. >>> she says she has been called a racist and wanted to stop. the woman who made the 911 call that began and national debate over racial profiling spoke out for the first time. natasha barrett has what she had to say. >> the woman who called 911 says she is very upset for how she has been treated by people, all for something she says she never said perry -- that she never said. here's the phone call that started at all. >> i don't know what is happening. >> the 911 call brought cambridge police to the home of professor henry louis gates. his arrest and the preside's comments has turned her life upside down. >> i was called racist and i was a target of scorn and ridicule because of the things i never said. >> the police report says that the assailant was identified as black, but the 911 call shows otherwise. >> now that the tapes are out, i hope that people can see that i try to be careful an

sure that the folks who do not have access to it because they do not work for a good company like kroger, or they work for a small business that wants to give health insurance, but cannot afford it, that they are able to get the same deal. the young lady right here. you can just pass the microphone down. it is hard to get through the aisle. >> is this a plan that you are willing to put your family on? >> yes, i mean, as i said, this is a plan that is similar to what i had when i was a member of congress. the federal employees benefit plan, the way it basically works is that you have a menu of options. you can choose the plan that you think is best. and then, you pay your premium cured as a member of congress, i was making more than a lot of people are, so i did not need a subsidy. we would have to provide some help to people so they could afford the premiums. but the idea that you have got a big pool that gives you leverage and insurance companies have to compete for you, that makes sense. i also think one of the choices that you should be able to choose from is what is called a public a

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kroge becauser, is a unionized company, provides health care -- kroger, because it is a unionized company neil: how do you arrive at the substantial savings? because the cbo has not, and even the sharpest accountants that i know have not. >> the point about savings is if we provide health care for people, and they stay well, society benefits. we now spend part of our gross domestic product on health care, and we still have millions of americans today, neil, who make a choice between putting groceries on the table -- neil: i am not talking that the decency of try to give every american health insurance. what i am asking you is every good-intentioned efforts on the part of the government has cost more. there was one program that was supposed to cost a little more of $100 million, and now it costs around half of $1 billion. >> good intentions also solve problems. neil: well, i just told you that that quintupled. that problem quintupled. >> there was the pharmacy benefit being so expensive. it is also the fact that the drug companies, supported by our friends in the republican party and congr

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. >> reporter: but like most employees back at the kroger super market, produce manager steve shiplet gets generous benefits, he's nervous those benefits may be taxed to cover the uninsured and demanding more specifics from the president. >> he's going to have to spit out some numbers and let the public know exactly what it is going to cost them and what they have to give up. >> reporter: shipplett says if the president steps up and sells it, then he is willing to step up himself. >> if it means me paying those taxes to get this reform through, then i would begrudgeenedly do it. >> reporter: this republican is ready to do his share, too. >> no matter what kind of plan you come up with, somebody has to pay for it. so, eventually, it comes down to us, the people that's working and paying taxes. we're going to have to pay for it one way or the other. i just hope we can come up with a plan that's worth paying for. >> ed henry live from bristol, virginia. ed, good to see you. isn't there a saneness to these events. the president didn't draft a bill and certainsent it to cong. he offered gu

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he went to a kroger's supermarket in bristol, virginia. the first town he visited during the 2008 general election campaign. this time, to campaign for health care reform. >> this is where change began. and that's why i've come back. >> reporter: it was just hours after some conservative democrats on capitol hill, known as the blue dogs agreed to a compromise that would cut the cost of the reform bill in the house. but is congress closer to getting something passed in september? >> i'm not thinking about the politics of this thing right now. >> reporter: republicans predictably argued the american people would not be impressed with the new compromise. >> millions will lose their current health insurance, and many americans will lose their job as a result of the higher taxes on businesses. >> reporter: the president mixed in an economic message by referring to the current cover of "newsweek," featuring the headlines "the recession is over." >> i'll bet you found this news a little startling. i know i did. >> reporter: he said the economic f

kroger, super value, safe way rising.continental exchange down 20% so far in july with another 7% slap down today. people with k. not get away from he's exchanges fast enough right now with this cftc mulling changes on energy, trading. and lastly, i did a little piece yesterday. my golly, it's working again today. the regional banks are trumping the goliaths. look at that. 2.6% versus 3%. what's going on? well, write-downs might have been write-ups. it might take another quarter or two. analysts are already loading the boat on some of those little bad banks. let's get over to little david fab whole is not little or bad. >> all right. thanks, matt. as matt well knows, hey, listen, you've got to stay tuned. you've got to stay tuned. you never know. i'm not going to lie to you, it's not a lot going on. maybe a lot of people took vacation. it's quiet. not a lot of corporate news. a lot of people looking forward to earning season. particularly next week when we're going to start to hear from the financials. to matt's point, yo

the one in virginia is at a kroger grocery store in the produce aisle, no less. >> i want to bring karenkly here. if you were advising the president today, what would you tell him to say? >> you got to stay very firm on his support for the public option. you can see we're listening for that. they are hearing a lot of different rhetoric. i think he has to continue to dispel the myth. we're not talking about rationing of care and taking away your medicare. the public option gives people the choice. do you want to keep what you have or do you want to get into a public system? he's got to stay firm on that message. a lot of people arguing on the left nervous when they hear coming out of congress that perhaps that is already off the table. >> i got it. arianna? >> he has to basically draw a line in the sand and say what has to be in a bill that he will sign. that he it can't be free for all. >> and posted on the internet. these are the standards we must have for a health care reform to be health care reform. >> right. otherwise it's another note i left behind reform. >> yeah. >> reform is not