for us to survive all these difficult years, but it is possible, and this profession, it, if, as krukchininad without the guilt of the guilty, as do you think acting is an art or a craft? what it is? it’s so rare that our profession and performances become art, but when this happens, you’re probably ready to give everything for it, because you succeeded. and so, while there, if there are performances, usually you are some kind of transmitter between lermontov and the auditorium, you transfer it there, but suddenly something happens when... the auditorium, as they once said, when, regardless of class, social status, financial status, nothing, when suddenly the same artists are the same, and you influence them, suddenly they begin to live with the same breath, with the same feelings, then, probably, this is art, thank you very much for this conversation, it was a podcast life of wonderful people, visiting.. we had two rectors, two wonderful theater people: evgeny oladimirovich knyazev, people's artist of russia, rector of the shchukin theater institute, whom we talked about today, and theater