miss krumholz thank you so much for talking with me today. >> pie pleasure. >> stephen: do you see a problem with money in our current political system. >> it's not that money is good or bad. it's that money is power. and so if it's left unchecked, its its left unscrutinized it has greater power to skew policy away from the public interest. >> it sounds like you think that hidden money taints politics. >> i think hidden money definitely taints politics. >> how do you hope to address the taint. >> by encouraging disclosure of cricks going to the often shadowy groups. >> stephen: so you want to shine a light on that. >> yes. >> stephen: okay. i expose my taint to sean and's proved of what he saw. >> i'm going to list some things that i'm thinking of spending my superpac money on. >> okay. >> stephen: and you tell me if it's legal. >> okay. >> stephen: private jet. >> yes. >> stephen: private jet ski. >> sure. >> stephen: okay. private elephant. >> oh, easily. >> stephen: paying a woman to say she had an affair with my opponent. >> i'm pretty sure illegal. >> stephen: what if it's true.