joining me now for a look at the issue are tom, consumer editor with ktuv. yvonne with the california office of spill prevention and response and molly samuel. why is there so much concern? >> there are two on the table in the bay area. the pittsburgh one you mentioned, the west pack oil terminal that would wring in crude by rail, ship and pipeline and there is another, the valero refinery wants to build its own rail terminal. meanwhile, kinder morgan is bringing in crude by rail. the concerns come down to safety, the accidents that you've mentioned and this isn't just in the cities where the terminals are but going back up the tracks to where the oil comes from. >> why is there so much more oil being transported now, tom? >> because fracking especially. there is a new supply of oil in the united states, which has a ready market in the united states, in canada and overseas and so much available. the trouble is where it's coming from is not rich in pipelines the way that the coasts are and various parts of the south are. as a result, if you sell the soil, you