they may try to destroy us, but the ku klux klan has been here for 150 years. > white power! ♪ >> i realize this new klan isn't as powerful as the old klan. but there is an undeniable power to this image that is even more undeniable when you see it up close. i actually feel lucky. unlike most of the black people in the history of this country who have been present for a cross burning, i get to leave. ♪ >>> this is jared steven leoni. he's 18. he's in city hall in beaverton, oregon. and according to him he's high on mushrooms. so he starts a fight with some cops. they all wrestle and jared grabs a cop's gun and shoots it. more cops jump in. it takes cops two minutes to restrain jared and he makes it out alive. this is white privilege. if that idea bothers you then let's just call it benefit of the doubt. those cops gave jared the benefit of the doubt that his life matters. that his life

and that is the second ku klux klan. you remember the first ku klux klan was right after the civil war? well, this was the second one, and in some ways it was the same and in some ways it was very different from the first one. it actually was a rather small -- it didn't amount to much until it was taken over by two professional fundraisers, edward clark and elizabeth tyler. and by the way, they made their money, they saw an opportunity here by selling sheets, sheets in children's sizes, in adult sizes, and the second kkk actually had 5 million card-carrying members. 5 million. this was not a fringe organization. and it was very powerful in the midwest. indiana was the leading klan state with 350,000 members. their targets like the first klan, african-americans. but mostly catholics and jews, but they also went after bootleggers. remember this was during prohibition. and also there was a kind of auxiliary that was very powerful, and that was the wkkk, the women's ku klux klan. there were no women in the first ku klux klan.

women's the wkkk, the ku klux klan. there were no women in the first ku klux klan. they acted quietly, but they did a lot of damage. would talk as they were hanging up their clothes behind their homes, and they would talk about the italian butcher, saying he was roman catholic. shoemaker.sh and all of a sudden, the italian butcher, the jewish shoemaker, would not have any customers. they didn't know why. people who had been their customers for years and suddenly were not there customers anymore, and they would have to move away because they wouldn't have any business. it was mostly important in small towns. the small-town americans, many of them believed they were losing out to urban americans. forby the way, in the 1920, the first time in 1920, urban americans, there were more urban americans than rural americans. the klan was brutal. there were murders, church burnings, branding's, and then it ended very suddenly, with the grand dragon, as he called himself, of the ku klux klan in indiana, he was convicted of the kidnapping, rape and murder of a young woman. and s

the ku klux klan became the arm of the democratic party. there were even massacres that occurred not just stopping voting rights but massacres with deaths because of the behavior of the ku klux klan. you might think the vote is sacred, isn't it? this is before we had the secret ballot. that happened in the 1890s. a lot of blacks were threatened by employers, they could see your ballot. if you vote republican you are fired. so there was all sorts of pressure but even with all that pressure we have 23 congressman, all republicans. the question is, you have seen how franklin roosevelt is a very politically shrewd person and he looks at this and not only notes -- not only every black republican but the first woman to be elected to congress republican. the first hispanic in the u.s. senate, republican. when roosevelt beat hoover, hoover's vice president was an indian, charles curtis, senator from kansas ran as hoover's vice president so you have an indian -- i mean native american as vice president and the first woman in congress as a republican

meacham writes about it. 1925, people in full ku klux klan garb walking down the street.ened though is in order to deal with that percentage of the population that's always been on the dark side is that the rest of the nation stood up-- not just republican and democratic presidents stood up. but you also had the news media standing up. you had communities standing up, ordinary people, volunteer groups. they said, "not here. that's not who we are." >> stephen: we have to take a little bit of a break, sir. we'll be right back with vice president joseph r. biden. ( applause ) just get one of me looking off. how is she there and we're here? condoms. true. don't hate-like their trip, book yours with hotels.com and get rewarded basically everywhere. hotels.com. be there. do that. get rewarded. it's not "acceptabled or nothing."" and it's definitely not "close enough or nothing." mercedes-benz suvs were engineered with only one mission in mind. to be the best. in the category, in the industry... in the world. lease the gla 250 suv for just $329 a month at your local mercedes-ben

of the appalachian states and brought that with them and detroit had a huge contingent of the ku klux klan, probably second only into the southern states and we were the northern stronghold. they would have marches that would include 10,000 people in white, robes they would burn crosses on the front lawn of the courthouse, they really help get a little then mayor elected, there was some serious baggage they came with those folks and it took many years until well after world war ii the we started to address some of those issues and some of them we are still living with today, labor unions are a voice, a source of protection, the formation of unions within automobile manufacturers and plants came late they were enough immigrants here in detroit and coming in constantly that it was easy to replace either for workers or workers who fought the operation for pay and is often things like that, most workers work six days a week and sometimes would even go in for the seventh day for extra money, it was during the depression when the times were toughest that really the automobile manufacturing. the

commercials and let us go on it a fairly passionate discussion about then candidate donald trump and the ku klux klan was election night. this was much earlier when they were trying to say that donald trump was refusing to attack the ku klux klan, which is not true. he likes quote-unquote good television. neglects to see it. stu and i apologize. >> but my point is they like it. sure enough the next day my clash with van jones was on the front page of "the new york times." >> sean: i want to apologize for saying something wrong. they live for three years and they never admit they are wrong. ever. >> sean, this is having an effect. when i walk around here and people stop me because they recognized me from tv, they go off on their own on scene and say that they won't watch it anymore. this is having an effect out here and i think it's a backlash and i think it's helping the president to be perfectly candid. >> sean: joe concha. sick of those marathon interviews that gone for 30, 35 minutes where they blow through commercials only happen with conservatives. the reason why that is, it's no longer an inter

state of georgia, when a black defend is sentenced to death and 4 of the 12 jurors say that the ku klux klan do good coings in the unity, when hat defense lawyer says i believe my client is genetically that's why i'm comfortable with the sent bs. that's racial bias. and that person isow on death today. and you're office is prosecuting him. you shouldn't stand up here and present like there's no racial bias in georgia. >> do you think since 1994 as a country we have come a little closer to understanding the arment you've been making all along, that there is racialdi rimination that plays into the present day? >> i think tre's a growing recognition that the weight of that we can continue to ignore. we have seen the supreme court, we have seen other institutions responding to dramatic evidence of discrimination, but for me, that is a consequence of work that we're just ginning. i think we're just staing to actually create a consciousness deal howow we're going to with this long history of racial ineqlity.>> he work is referred to as narrative work. what is narrative your work has shifted from b

fields carrying torches and chanting anti-semitic bile, accompanied by white supremacist and the ku klux klan. it has been repeated and repeated. folks, restoring the soul of america, that is what is at stake in 2020. that is why this election is so important. it is likely will not donald trump pick the democratic nominee for president, period. i will not let him get away with it. he has picked a fight with the wrong guy. [cheers and applause] mr. biden: i will not be distracted by all the his lies and smears and distortions. everybody knows who donald trump is. they know me as well. one of these attacks -- i will stay focused on your lives. it's about you, not me. it's about your family, your children, your grandchildren. you can't wait for affordable health care. you can't wait to get paid a decent wage. you can't wait to have access to education. you can't wait for us to do something rational about guns. you can't wait for us to take on what is happening to our climate and the existential threat to the world. it can't wait. [applause] mr. biden: the world can't wait for america to lead a s

woods and fields carrying torches chanting antisemitic bile accompanied by white supremacists and ku klux klan. it's been repeated and repeated and repeated. so folks, restoring the soul of america, that's what's at stake in 2020. that's why this election is so important. it's why we're not going to let donald trump take the democratic nominee for president period. i'm not going to let him get away with it. he's picked the a fight with the wrong guy. [applause] >> i'm not going to be distracted by all his lies and smears and distortion. everybody knows who donald trump is. they know me, as well. none of these attacks are true and i'm going to stay focused on your lives. that's what this election is about.. it's about your families your children and your grandchildren and you can't wait, you can't wait for affordable healthcare. you can't wait to get paid a decent wage in a job you have. you can't wait to have access to education. you can't wait for us to do something rational about guns. you can't wait for us to take on what is happening to our climate and the existential threat to the world.

the ku klux klan and law enforcement agencies decided we're going to teach these black folks a lesson. >> reporter: roy was a local farmer and klansman. he drove both couples across the bridge. >> the klan had blocked the road. these klansmen were not hiding. they opened the doors and drug the women out. they said, we know mr. so and so. we have to kill all of them now. >> reporter: the couples were dragged outside, beaten, dragged into the woods and tied together by a tree. the ambush became a massacre. the mob opened fire, 60 shots, point-blank. and no one has been held accountable. georgia's governor at that time said 15 of 20 of the mob members were known by name. but the grand jury indicted no one. >> they sealed the grand jury files. >> reporter: why is that? >> they were elected officials. they were farmers. everybody knew their names. >> reporter: critics believe those names are hiding in grand jury transcripts. the department of justice argues against opening them. >> what are you trying to hide? >> reporter: joe bell is fighting to open the records. >> what is in the records

i was like, i don't know, maybe i should go talk to the ku klux klan. good for ratings. but kamau might die. but that might be really good for ratings. [ laughter ] when i pitched the ku klux klan idea i didn't think they'd actually let me do it. you know what i mean? i was just trying to be edgy and get the job. and i thought we'd negotiate it down to like the rodeo.

to be the ones talking about racism when in their history they are the ones who supported the ku klux klanse the abolition of slavery and continue to worship at the shrine of planned parenthood, an organization founded by a racist who wanted to use abortion to control the black population. democrats have no room to be talking about racism. shannon: a lot of folks who support the party don't acknowledge those roots, don't see it that way. they see the gop as the party with that problem now. >> i have a different way of approaching life with all do respect to the pastor. i believe we tried to unify people, not use examples in our past as tragic as they are to demonize one party or another. the civil rights act in the 1960s was supported by both democrats and republicans. we are better as a nation as we saw this weekend when we succeed with raids like the one that got abu bakr al-baghdadi. i put patriotism ahead of party. i don't believe the president is a racist, i don't think joe biden, democrats are racist. we do better when we emphasize what unifies us and what makes us distinctive and in

democrats want to be talking about racism when in the history, they were the ones who supported the ku klux klan abolition of slavery, and they continued to worship at the shrine of planned parenthood, an organization founded by a racist named margaret sangster who wanted to use abortion to control the black population. democrats have no room to be talking about racism. >> shannon: but a lot of folks out there who support the party now don't acknowledge those routes. they don't see it that way. they see the g.o.p. at the party that has a problem now. >> well, shannon, look, i have a different way of approaching life, with all due respect to the pastor. i believe we try to unify people, not use examples from our past as tragic because they are. to demonize one party or another. the civil rights act in 1960s was supported by both democrats and republicans. i think we are better as a nation as we saw this weekend when we succeed with raids like we saw that got al-baghdadi. i'm the sort of person that puts patriotism at a party. i don't believe the president is racist. i don't think the joe biden an

anti-semitic bile that was shouted in the streets of nuremberg and berlin in the '30s, accompanied by the ku klux klanman was killed and the president was asked to respond, and he said there were very fine people in both groups. no president has ever, ever said anything like that, the possible exception of andrew jackson before the civil war. that's when i decided, how can i, i've spent my whole life doing this, how can i remain silent? because i was raised by a dad who taught me silence is complicit. this is the way he has tried to divide this country and pitted people against one another. and you saw it didn't just end with charlottesville, look what happened in el paso recently, you know, young man saying i shot all these people in the parking lot because there's a hispanic invasion. well, the president just weeks, and the 2018 off year campaign kept showing that video of people marching up, we're being invaded by latinos and mexicans are rapists, and this division in our country is just so devastating, so devastating for so many people, and it's ruining our standing around the world, in a way that

she was endorsed earlier this year by david duke, former head of the ku klux klan.en a favorite of far right groups and holocaust deniers and a real minhenagerie far right supporters, and much of their support for her has been amplifieamplified. there have been nights after debates where her name was the most searched on google. there's been odd digital activity. hillary clinton didn't make this up. i hate to disagree with my friend van jones, but the reality is there's something peculiar going on with that campaign. tulsi gabbard tulsi gabbard by responding as you quoted with talking points against hillary clinton, that's one way to respond. a better way to respond would be to fully and finally denounce and reject all of this odd support she's getting from the far right, explain further and perhaps denounce her dealings with assad who probably -- or i should say is arguably a war criminal, and try to get back on track. but, you know, until she does that, i think hillary clinton has some real expertise when it comes to russian interference and elections, and i would

messenger when it came to countering messages of violence and hate, whether from violence and the ku klux klan, that starts the relationship of trust and governmental entities and law enforcement intelligence community and the social media company what we have seen is them doing an actual job, please and airing content from groups like isis, sharing information and it's coming down from places like facebook and twitter, we need to have them do the same thing when it comes to domestic grievances, that is easy to say in a lot harder to do, it's a lot more complicated when it comes to domestic grievances inspiring individuals to violence, it should be quite frankly because we live in a country that prioritizes privileges and protects free speech, so it is, i don't say this to minimize how complicated is but we first need to agree that it is a problem. >> i'm going to do something that as a moderator is difficult, i'm going to get personal and try to generate tension among the panelist's, bobby working at the university and you're working with the johnson affairs, they say that you do not examine

donald trump, the son of a father who had been arrested at a ku klux klan rally and went on to be accused by the justice department with racist discrimination as a new york city landlord. william taylor's father spent his life in service mostly with the army corps of engineers. donald trump and william taylor followed in their father's footsteps. donald trump, too, was accused by the justice department along with his father of racist practices as a landlord. like his father before him, william taylor graduated from west point and spent most of his career in in the vietnam war then in civilian positions in the department of energy. as a member of senator bill bradley's senate staff. and then with the state department serving in afghanistan, iraq, israel, and ukraine. william taylor is an expert on ukraine. he served as george w. bush's ambassador to ukraine. and after donald trump forced out marie yovanovitch as ambassador, william taylor is serving as acting ambassador to cr ukraine. he testified for ten hours today under oath about what rudy giuliani and donald trump have been doing with

it came to trying to counter messages of violence and hate whether there from isis or from the ku klux klan. though that startsirst with a relationship of trust quite frankly between governmental entities, law enforcement intelligence communities and the social media companies. what we've seen is social media companies doing a much better job at policing and moderating content from groups like isis and taking that off platforms, sharing information with the government to make sure that information is coming down from places like facebook and twitter. we need to have them do the same thing when it comes to violent extremism and inspiration that comes from domestic groups. that's easy to say and a lot harder to do because it's a lot more complicated when it comes to domestic grievances inspiring individuals to violence and it should be, quite frankly because we live in a country that prioritizes and protects free speech. so it is, i don't say this to minimize how complicated it is but we first need to agree that it's a problem worth talking about. i'm going to do something that as a moderator

. >> the ku klux klan recruited during the 1920s instrumentalizing the vold stead act and arguing if, state, and your local police are not able to rein in violations, we will. >> reporter: he was the most hated man in america. >> yes. >> reporter: he did not look like a sympathetic character which worked against him. >> no, he didn't. >> reporter: volstead became the face of everything going wrong. >> he didn't take into account people's personal a dictions -- he didn't take into that there seems to be a problem when the government tries to tinker with people's personal choices. >> yes, yes, exactly. you know, because you're taking away people's rights to actually decide for themselves. >> reporter: melaine gabbert gatchel believes volstead was well intended. she continues to share his story as lisa educates on the wider, long-lasting impact of the 18th amendment. was any part of prohibition a success? >> it is known that in the wake of the law, consumption seemed to have declined. after prohibition, the level of consumption declined by about 30% from what it was in about 1914. you c

represent victims in charlottesville under a lawsuit under the ku klux klan act. these are not always lawsuits in which litigants and opposing counsel show civility, in which they show respect or where it seems there is a middle ground to be had in which we can find common virtue and build out from there. one of the lessons i bring to all of these cases is that part of the rule of the good lawyer is to treat everyone with who they interact with incivility and to try to present issues to courts and judges in ways that, if i can say this, which appropriately reflect the balance of equities in the case and show respect to all sites even when you are advocating for only the one. not every case is an all or nothing venture. justice kennedy was committed to that. there is balance in the law and that has informed my own work on those questions. the second question, there is more to the world than the federal government. this is something justice kennedy shared deeply about -- cared deeply about. many former clerks and lawyers and commentators fixate on the federal govern

so they formed the ku klux klan. founded, the national rifle association. soon politicians passed one of the first gun laws, making it illegal for any black person to own one. it was a great year for america, the kkk and the nra. of course they had nothing to do with each other. one group promoted responsible gun ownership and the other shot and lynched black people. then a black woman refused to move to the back of the bus. all hell broke who's. black people started demanding their rights and white people had a major freaky meltdown. run away, run away! they ran fleeing to the suburbs where it was white and safe and clean. they went out and bought a quarter of a billion guns and put locks on the doors, alarmed on the houses, gates on the neighborhoods. they were safe and secure and snug as a bug. and everyone lived happily ever after. >> or did they? because if you turn on the evening news, america still seems like a pretty scary place. >> is he dangerous? what's he up to? >> what are you trying to pull, man? >> why

i could not possibly be a republican, mainly because i would not be in the same party of the ku klux klan and the white supremacists are in. that is basically the way it goes. host: what other issues are interested in legislatively, paul? legislatively? host:host: yeah, what is important to you in rhode island. caller: basically, i am pretty proud of all the people that i have representing me in rhode island. i think they are doing a great job. host: did you ever go to one of these townhall meetings? caller: no, i have not had a chance. i don't really get out much, but i do pay attention to what is going on. host: thanks for calling. paul broun is calling from ohio, democratic caller. what is your opinion this morning? caller: my opinion is that he should be impeached. they should have started -- i'm very nervous. they should have started after the mueller report came out. is just attorney general barr's tack on it really discredited it, but i'm sitting and looking at analysis this man lied, and he did obstruct justice. not only that, i also watch his rallies. of other rallies. yes, he sh

so they formed the ku klux klan.ans had one of the first gun laws making it illegal for any black person to own one. it was a great year for america. the kkk and the nra. of course, they had nothing to do with each other. and this was just a coincidence. one group promoted responsible gun ownership and the other group lynched black people and that's how it worked until 1955 when a black woman broke the law by refusing to move to the back of the bus. white people couldn't believe it. what is going on? all hell broke loose. and black people everywhere were demanding their rights. and white people ran away, they ran into the suburbs where it was white and safe and clean and went out and bought a quarter of a billion guns and put locks on the doors and gates around the neighbors and finally they were safe and secure and snug as a bug. and everyone lived happily ever after. >>> or did they? because if you turn on the evening news, america still seems like a pretty scary place. >> dangerous. what's he up to? >> what are yo