andrew kuchins awaiting 52 weeks, 52 weeks for treatment, in april 2010 there were 21,000 people waiting that long. the figure now is 510. lower. [cheers and applause] >> mr. speaker, it's very obvious -- it's very obvious he doesn't want to talk about what he said on accident and emergency with house of commons called him out. let's go to the commonsense definition of what a waiting -- >> order, order. as always doesn't matter how long it takes. the question will be heard. they yelling at the calculated shouting might as will cease. we'll keep going as long as is necessary. mr. ed miliband. >> let's get to the definition of what a waiting time in a&e is. it's the time between our writing at the a&e and leaving the accident and emergency. the number of people waiting more than four hours is at its highest level in a decade. why does he just admit the truth which everybody in the country knows, people are waiting longer in a&e? >> the figures i gave last week are correct, you are published by the health and social care information center which is the average waiting time was 77 minutes wh