kucinich. >> you're not recorded. >> i vote aye. >> mr. kucinich votes aye. you are not, sir. >> mr. burton votes no. >> mr. mckenry. >> votes no. >> mr. mchenry votes no. >> anyone else seek recognition. >> votes aye. >> mr. murphy votes aye. >> the clerk will report. on that vote, mr. chairman, there are 14 ayes, 23 nos. >> the amendment is not agreed to. we now call the roll on the lynch amendment. mr. i. no. >> mr. mica votes no. mr. plats votes no. mr. turner. mr. turner votes no. mr. mchenry votes no. mr. jordan votes no. mr. chaffetz. >> no. mr. chaffetz votes no. mr. mack votes no. mr. wahlberg. mr. wahlberg votes no. mr. langford votes no. mr. move votes no. mr. gozar. mr. labrador votes no. mr. meehan. mr. walsh. no. mr. gowdy votes no. mr. ross votes no. mr. ginta votes no. mr. thentholds votes no. mr. kelly votes no. mr. cummings. >> yes. >> mr. cummings votes aye. >> mr. towns. >> mr. towns votes aye. miss la moaneny votes aye. miss norton votes aye. mr. kucinich votes aye. mr. attorneyeny votes aye. mr. clay votes aye. mr. lynch. mr. clay votes

kucinich of ohio. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]

and representative kucinich, rhett me start with you. by common agreement there were ongoing negotiations over the document turnover. were the two sides close in could today's vote have been avoidd? >> i think it could have been avoided if there was no intention to push the issue of contempt. once you start to get into con democrat there's momentum that develops towards that regardless of what's being offered. the fact of the matter is there were thousands of documents produced by the justice department. the attorney general himself has appeared before congress many times on this matter. it's hardly been hiding. and i think that even at this late date there still should be a way to divert from a process where congress itself has to vote on in contempt citation. >> suarez: this was an unprecedented vote. why was it important to the majority to cite attorney general holder? >> we have tried to work with him. as mr. kucinich said holder wasn't hiding himself, what he was doing was hiding the document documents that we're seeking because, ag

dennis kucinich didn't get brainwashed in the process.e a mindless cheerleader for a highly compromised bill. he never forgot the 26 million people who were going to be left behind without a plan to ever provide coverage for them. but many democrats did. they pretended they passed a universal coverage bill and as the law continued to be criticized, democrats pretended they passed a perfect bill. no legislation is ever perfect. it can never be perfect. all legislation is the product of compromise. the affordable care act is indescribely complex, even for experts. no one can recite to you the 15 taxes in the bill without checking the list. there isn't a nonexpert out there who knows the full mix of ways in which the bill tries to provide health care coverage for expanding medicaid, expanding the c.h.i.p. program, providing government subsidies to purchase health insurance for some people. no one knows how much those subsidies are, not even the experts. no one knows what the fines are and the enforcement for the individual mandate. none of t

chairman, ranking member kucinich and subcommittee, i am robert mancini and i am the ceo. we are a wholly owned subsidiary and i am managing director of the kmodits business unit of the firm. thank you for the opportunity to appear this morning and speak to you about the energy and the solar generating plant in colorado. we are awe power producer in the business of developing, owning and operating power generation facility since 1983. we currently employ 200 full time employees in charlotte, north carolina as well as the generating facilities in colorado, virginia, florida, and california. and i am here to speak with you and it's not just in the renewable energy. it's focused on the projects throughout the united states that have included primarily natural gas and cold-fired facilities. in total, we developed power generation facilities with a combined generating kpft of over 5,000 mega watts of electric power, enough to power approximately two million homes. we are particularly focused on the continued development of natural gas fired generation as we believe the natural

kucinich raised. i want to deal first with the message ms. de rugy mentioned, the true impact of these programs. one of the things that became readily apparent that i want to press on a little bit is whether or not these projects would have been done anyway. mr. rakowich, you said you started this in 2006, you started doing this program. in fact, have actually put some of these systems on your roofs before the loan program started, is that right? >> congressman, that is true. those programs prior to this were almost entirely financed by the utilities that we in essence, you know -- they financed it at that point in time. >> you testified on the program in california. i understand that that has not

kelly and kucinich are raising. i want to deal with the issue that he mentioned which was the true impact of these programs. as i said and listen to you folks testify, one of the things that was readily apparent is whether or not these projects would have been done anyway. you said you started this in 2006. you started doing this program and have actually put some of these photo systems on your roofs before the loan program started. is that right? >> congressman, that is true. those programs prior to this were almost entirely financed by the utilities that we in essence -- they financed that program at that point in time. >> on the program thaw testified on regarding the program in california, i understand that that has not actually led to any installation of the operations on your roof tops. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> the 1705 program in your circumstance has not generated any stimulative effect, has it? >> congressman, if you don't mind, let me just give you a little bit of context to that. the progra

kucinich: the gentleman is correct. and when you think of how many people -- most bankruptcy are connected to people not being able to pay hospital bills. and any single family has no one to dread of having one individual get ill and everything people worked their lifetime for, they lose. mr. ellison: the gentleman might reflect on the fact that many of these people you are referring to have insurance. mr. kucinich: that's right. think about this now. you can have insurance and if you run up against caps, lifetime caps on coverage, you are out of luck. you can be insured, because so many americans have gotten in trouble financially, even though they have insurance, they can't pay the bills. the bills have sent americans into poverty. and so we need to realize that we have taken a step in the direction of a standing support for the american people and their health care with the affordable care act, but it's not the final step. again, i'm here to share with you, mr. chairman, my willingness to continue the effort towards

. >>> congressman dennis kucinich, a you're a member of the house education committee, what do you remember act your own college commencement? >> well, you know what, i was working that day and i didn't go to it. i graduated from case western reserve with a batch lower's and a master's degree in speech and communication, i have the certificate to prove it, but i didn't get a chance to go to the granl wags because i was working. >> and how about giving commencement speeches? we heard that you were overseas just recently giving one? >> i spoke at the american university in dubai, 5,000 people at their commencement from 100 countries. it was an honor to be there with the ruler of dubai and members of the royal family. and it was an honor to be able to keck with these young people who are going to go all over the globe. and so my message was to try to inspire them, to get a chance to look at the world in an expansive way. and it was really an honor to be chosen, to be in a forum which previously was addressed by president clinton, secretary of state albright, secretary of state powell, secretar

who else seeks recognition, the gentleman from cleveland, ohio, kucinich is recognized. >> at the risk of stating the obvious, the assertion of executive privilege has taken this proceeding into a whole new realm, and while congress has the constitutional right and this committee to whom that right is delegated to require the production of records, the administration similarly has a constitutional right to claim executive privilege and to refuse to produce those records. now, when you have a conflict between the legislative branch and the executive branch, those conflicts generally will go to the courts to make the decision as to whether or not the administration's claim of executive privilege should be upheld. it would seem to me that before this committee would take any action on the question of contempt, we would first appropriately have to apply to a court to order the production of the records. if then the records were not produced, it would seem that the question of contempt would then be germane, so i just want to ask the chairman that in the interest of avoiding an untimely col

joining me is dennis kucinich congressman from ohio. okay, congressman. here is my straight-up question to you. if this had been written into the legislation and i know you read all 2700 pages, 2500. i lose track. if it had been written into the legislation that this, indeed, was not a penalty for not purchasing insurance, it was a tax, do you think that would have passed the house of representatives? >> could have been a different kind of debate. i think that interest there are a lot of surprised people that the supreme court rejected a commerce clause and came down on validating it as a tax. is that a political issue? of course t is. but it's also going to be a matter of whether americans want to see millions more without healthcare, whether they want to set back the cause of those who are now covered preexisting conditions, lifetime caps. getting children covered. you recited that earlier. look, it's going to be a battle over healthcare all over again. and those who lined up on respective sides are going to be pretty much where they have been before. i

kucinich were raising. i want want to deal first with the issues that the true impact, the truth statement impact of these programs. as i said and i listened a folks testify, one of the things that became really apparent is one of these projects would been done anyway. you said you started this in 2006. you started doing this program and effective actually have put some these photovoltaic systems on your rose before the loan program started, is that right? >> congressman, that is true. those programs prior to this were almost entirely -- by the utilities that we in essence, you know, they financed that program at that point i. spent on the program he testified regarding the program in california. i understand that that is not actually lead to any installation of photovoltaic operations onto rooftops, is that correct? >> that is correct. >> so the 1705 program hasn't actually generated any stimulative effect, has its? >> well, congressman, if you don't mind, let me just give you a bit of context to that beca

kucinich. we're thinking the same here, mr. kucinich. but now we have it going the other way around, where we have the department of energy having private sector edit and draft internal documents that are communicating within the department of energy. if the american taxpayers can see what's going on in this program, and i believe it was your third point, doctor, in your testimony, you talked about this is what happens when cronyism gets to this level, and this much money is at stake. >> when a lot of money is at stake for a company, whether it's direct cash or loan guarantees, which would basically give them, as mr. kelly said, lower rates, then they would get on the open market. i mean, it actually shifts the -- a lot of the incentive for the company itself to expand a lot of energy rather than to please the company. but to please the government, or actually to meet the standards expected by the government. but i believe the reverse is true. i mean, there's a huge economic literature, public choice economics is all about the way the re

kucinich of ohio. the chair: pursuant to the order of the house of today, the gentleman from ohio and a member opposed each will control -- mr. frelinghuysen: i reserve a point of order. the chair: each will control five minutes. the point of order is reserved. the gentleman from ohio, mr. kucinich, is recognized. the gentleman will suspend. mr. kucinich: my amendment -- the chair: the gentleman will suspend. the chair: the clerk will report the amendment offered by the gentleman from ohio. the er antffed b e short title, insert the following. section -- mr. kucinich: i ask unanimous consent that the amendment be reported as read. the chair: is there objection? mrfrghuyre will re e erk: inserthe following, seion, ne of the fundde ale under thi act be used to provide new lo the amount otherwise appropriated by this act for title 17, innovative technology loan guarantee program is hereby reduced by $33 million. the chair: does the gentleman from new jersey wish to reserve a point of order on -- mr. freli

kucinich. >> thank you very much for calling this hearing. i look forward to the witnesses and to learn more about the department of energy's loan guarantee program and what it achieved for the american people. before the witnesses take their oath to provide true and accurate testimony, i top the make sure our record is accurate to the best of our ability. on march 20th, 2012, our chairman issued a majority report alleging that "eoe violated the statutory requirement that projects commence construction by september 30th, 2011. in approving a loan guarantee for the project and to place solar panels in 28 states. accusing a federal agency of breaking the law is a serious accusation. it's not made lightly or shouldn't be without substantial evidence. the committee has in their position a report of a september 2nd 2011 site visit by engineers from doe and bank of america's independent contractor which appears to refute the accuracy of the majority's assertion. bank of america was the lender applicant on this project. at that time both bank of ame

kucinich: i thank the gentleman. i spoke here a minute ago on the floor of the house concerning my deep and abiding concern about a nuclear power plant in the state of ohio called the davis-bessy nuclear power plant. now, this power plant, when it was first licensed, has -- from the time it was first licensed has experienced a series of shutdowns. so much so that it -- there was a period where the company that originally owned it, the companies that originally owned it, it massive losses -- had massive losses because the plant was not up and running. now, they have so many difficulties that it became an embarrassment to the nuclear industry itself. we are now at a point where this plant is trying to get a new license for its nuclear facility. now, there are over 104 nuclear power plants in america. some of them have achieved relicensing. others are in the process of 'plying. one -- applying. one of the things that we have to be concerned about, because we are talking about nuclear power plants, is the structural stab

i want to bring in jackie kucinich and richard wolf. does the president really believe the private sector is doing just fine and does mitt romney want to have fewer teachers, firefighters, policemen? >> i think the thing with these comments is they reiterate what the other campaign is trying to paint the other person as. that's why these are catching on because exactly the picture that they want to paint is painted by these comments. that's why they're hitting the dvr and making these into ads like that. >> take it out of context but whatever you want to do with it, you need to do wit. richard, do these comments hurt or what's your take on them? >> yeah, they hurt. but they're not taking into account the bigger narrative going on here, which is how do people feel about these individuals as leaders, their leadership qualities and whether they have a credible plan for the economy and how do they feel about the economy right now? there are hiring and firing decisions anytime you get into a redirect. the electorate are opening the door to f

thank you to ezra, governor rendell and jackie kucinich.with chris cillizza in the anchor chair. t.g.i.f., my friend. >>> let me say, i'm not just saying this because aaron sorkin is next to you, multiple days ago i tweeted that i like "the newsroom" a lot. i want to be on record. >> you got the cillizza endorsement. that's all that matters. >> semi-handsome blogger. >> exactly. >> thanks, alex. >>> coming up, what's next for the states whoç filed suit to overturn president obama's health care law. georgia's attorney general will join me. >>> also, the romney campaign is collecting cash hand over fist since yesterday's health care ruling. more on that in today's political briefing. >>> and the real-life hoosiers. we'll meet the film makers behind a documentary, next. [ male announcer ] this was how my day began. a little bird told me about a band... ♪ an old man shared some fish stories... ♪ oooh, my turn. ♪ she was in paris, but we talked for hours... everyone else buzzed about the band. there's a wireless mind inside all of us. so, where

. >>> congressman dennis kucinich blamed it on efforts to privatize the mail. >>> former republican senatorbob dole, tells "gq" newt gingrich was difficult to work with, so he's not a newt fan. saying quote he's got a lot of ideas, some of them good, not many. >>> campaigning in boston, the president, a chicago white sox fan couldn't help himself, thanking boston for trading red sox veteran, kevin youkilis to his white sox. upon hearing boos, the president quickly apologized, saying i guess i should not have brought up baseball. >>> and that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> and here's your "first look" at how wall street will kick off the day. the dow opens at 12,502. the s&p sank 21, the nasdaq plunged 26. >>> in tokyo, the nikkei fell 70 points, but in hong kong, the hang seng gained 84. europe's debt crisis dogged investors against on monday. hours after a former bailout request from spain, moody's slashed credit ratings on 28 spanish banks, that rattled investors over how much cash spain will need. bank of america led the dow's losses as u.s. banks with european exposure t

. >> ranking member kucinich, just a point of information before i answer the question. i just want to clarify that i am a managing director of goldman sachs. i've been with the company almost 20 years. and if there are any questions that you'd like to present to goldman sachs, i would be happy here to answer those questions. so that would be unusual to draw attention to myself. but i think for the record, i need to clarify what my role is. i am not the ceo of, obviously of goldman sachs, but i would be happy to answer any questions i can. to answer the question with respect to the project that we funded, together with the government, what we did is advance the technology and took it from -- i would call it a context in which it was being applied, applied, you know, in space program, and putting in a different context, to prove that that technology could be applied on a utility scale, commercial scale project to produce green power for the citizens of colorado or citizens anywhere in the country. so one of the benefits was to prove the hypothesis that this particular typ

i have respect for principal leftys like a kucinich who opposes this left, right, no matter who is in power but for the rest of them they are hypocrites and they are acting entirely out of add vap taj and not out of principal. >>> it was the 8th strike in pakistan in the last two weeks. >>> 8 minutes after the hour. time for the weather update with maria molina and a look at the current temperatures. today we are looking agent temperatures around 70 inland. temperatures across the northwest bringing in cooler air. temperatures in the 40s. well below what is typical this time of year. rapid city on into portions of texas those temperatures into the 70's. as we head eastward 50 in cleveland and 48 over maine. north carolina the city of rale leigh on the cool side. we will be seeing activity an akty pattern across the country including us in the northeast. it will not be a widespread rain again. there will be isolated showers and also isolated thunderstorms. you believing see some of that already early this morning across portions of up state new york, new york city but there will be a s

tonight and i have to say also that there is actually a letter out there that is crafted by dennis kucinich and there may be ten other signatories out there right now that are asking for a little more transparency and openness on the drone program when it comes to the obama administration but. it is taking this anniversary the watergate thing into account how times change in terms of the reaction the things that are happening now when it comes to the leaks what's really change is that there is a war on leakers and whistleblowers as opposed to questions being raised about what is being about i wrote on my twitter feed the announcement that there's going to be an investigation into the leaking about the president's kill list rather than an an investigation or concurrently an investigation about the legality of the president's kill list so it's kind of akin to have the watergate situation happened in this moment you know congress would be calling for an investigation of woodward and bernstein and the media would be touting nixon and the break in as a side of president nixon campaign and its to

dennis kucinich kicking off but not taking part.t needs to be reformed since it is losing billions. republican efforts reform would compromise it's effectiveness. >> the federal government refuses to reveal the food stamps. foufr the last 4 months they are expending 3 million taxpayer dollars on ads like this. >> would you look at margie? she looks amazing. >> yes, she sure does. >> i wonder how she stays so fit? what's her secret? >> she told me food stamp benefits help her eat right and she stays active, too. >> the department of agriculture is running these ads in 6 states including new york and california to get more people to sign up for food stamps. >>> okay patti ann, no shoes, no shirt definitely a problem for a guy that looks just like kenny d chesney. can you tell him apart? nathan blankenship kicked out at the kenny chesney concert in national tv for looking too much of the star. fans were so excited thinking chesney was in the audience with them before the show it created a huge disturbance. security escorted him out. th

dennis kucinich? danny devito? dana perino?ut this morning she did her step aerobics on a lego. then she came to work in monopoly wheelbarrow. at red lobsters she orders nothing but plankton and she travels by slingshot. last week, she ate an olive and qualified for ma terpty need. hollywood wants to pretend they're exclusive but they're into rapt jerks. it'd organize a protest but i went to home depot and couldn't reach the shelf they sold the poster board so i got drunk instead. dana, wow! >> dana: wow! >> greg: why do you remain silent? >> dana: first, one of the lines is one i gave you. hollywood are jerks, when they say they're sensitive but they're mean to people. they're not sensitive at all. they're a bunch of you know what. >> greg: we know dana is 80 pounds. two feet. she had to go to the movie theater when she was a kid. she couldn't go to movies, because she couldn't keep the seat down. >> dana: my mom would have to put her purse on the chair to home the thing down. >> kimberly: honestly, i thought the woman who fak

. >> hi, i'm jim kucinich. my question deals with the relationship of henry howlich and grant. in 1862 it was very, very poor. howlich had removed grant from command. >> right. >> are you a little suspicious that grant would have done something as provocative atorder number 11 without howlich even knowing about it in spite of the fact that communications were down? >> um, well, first of all, it's wonderful to know people who really know their civil war history. it's great. [laughter] i can't imagine -- grant had no way of knowing when he issued the order that the telegraph lines would be cut less than 72 hours later. if he had known that, he would have made sure to have been there and not given that drunk murphy in charge. so i'm sure that grant assumed that in the natural course of events copies of the order would immediately be telegraphed to washington which was supposed to happen, and then howlich would have seep it at once. would have seen it at once. at least my understanding is that nobody knew about the order precisely because the telegraph lines were down. now, what ho