kucinich.hank you both for being here. congressman hoekstra, i begin with you. is it possible, you support, donald trump, is that right? have you endorsed him? >> absolutely. ashley: you have, okay, you must be frustrated like so many others in his party he keeps shooting himself in the foot when he had plenty of ammunition to use against hillary clinton. can he get back on track and economy in particular should be his strong suit? >> oh, absolutely. donald trump will get back on track. this campaign is going to get on track. we need to start focusing on his vision for bring being this economy back, enabling people to grow their paychex. he has a plan. he has an agenda. they will implement it. the american people will see it is much better plan than what we've experienced with seven 1/2 years, with the barack obama-hillary clinton economy. this is going to be one of the key opportunities for donald trump and mike pence to different themselves from hillary clinton. ashley: congressman, kucinich,

and congressman kucinich, i want to end with you. does donald trump avoid self-inflicted wounds and costly political missteps going forward? >> it's important for him to focus on the needs of the american people. to basically step out of his ego and talk about jobs, about the trade, which has hurt the people, about the tpp which is a horrible trade deal. about glass-steagall and what is happening on wall street that could end up hurting the economy. if he focuses on economics, he has a chance. if he doesn't and there is more gaffes, hillary clinton will win easily. >> well, you get the last word, congressman kucinich. congresswoman hayward, good to have you both here. and per both you have, this race is far from over. eric? >> all right, thanks, arthel. >>> turkey has suffer in order unspeakable heartbreak after that terrorist attack targets innocent people celebrating a wedding. a u.s. ally, a fellow member of nato quickly becoming a new front on the war on terror? >>> plus, what will the middle east look like if isis is defeated? f

eboni, former democratic congressman dennis kucinich said on program, he admitted this is real problem no problem saying that as a democrat. he is calling it like he is seeing it. it becomes more than a real problem. seems like it is quite serious. how badly can it hurt her presidential run. >> politically speaking, liz, i say it is critical. we have numbers, ap reporting moments ago, over half of the private meetings hillary clinton had as secretary of state were with people that made huge contributions to the clinton foundation. that correlation is not food, liz. 85 out of 154 of those meetings were donors gave money to the foundation. politically speaking she can't run away from it. liz: kelly, that looks, smells, sounds like pay to play. >> exactly the definition of what pay to play is. liz: donald trump has been relatively quiet. he already put out all kinds of statements they have to close down the foundation. what is the right way to react? to remain quiet, go to fund-raisers, event in austin of the supposed to be on sean hannity on fox news. will tell them how it smells to high

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i have got myself partnering with dennis kucinich in my first term trying to stop the operation odysseyawn, our massive attack on libya. kennedy: are there other republicans, you are not seeking reelection. no political harm will come to you from this. are there other republicans confiding in you that they also wants to vote for gary johnson? >> yes, i can say that with absolute certainty firsthand. others are wrestling with it. each and every american at the end of the day has to vote his or her conscience. but i'm encouraging subtly, i'm encouraging everyone to consider, look at the platform, look at our nominee, governor johnson and his running mate governor weld. these are high-caliber two-term republican governors. they are worthy of consideration. they are war think our vote. kennedy: thank you very much. a ringing endorsement from a sitting republican congressman. thank you very much for being here. coming up. a handful of viewer mail. inform your family i offer a golden many ski for your hand. once they see the monkey ride the goat into battle. you will see mine. you will see mi

mark: dennis kucinich could have said that stuff.s clear that on policy, she is comfortable running centerleft and not doing anything to say to the party in a serious policy-oriented way we need to make some changes. donny: the fact that trump is going very traditional her to stayllows populist and does not have to move from there. mark: clearly distancing herself from president obama and not ceding ground on this issue to donald trump. secretary clinton: i will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages, including the transpacific partnership. [applause] oppose itclinton: i now. i will oppose it after the election. i will oppose it as president. mark: there are people in michigan who care about free trade and people who would like the tpp to pass, but it seems obvious she is trying to convince everyone this is her position and trump is not going to get to the populist left of her on trade. again, you stop somebody on the street and ask them what tpp is, and they may think it is a new rap group or something like that, bu

and jackie kucinich of the daily beast. ed, let me get your opinion of what we just heard from the president. he was very, very blunt in saying that donald trump is unfit to be president. woefully unprepared to deal with domestic and national security. >> i think it's no surprise he finds him unqualified and is no fan of trump given their years of history. what i found notable is that he's now using the full trappings of the presidency to make this point, a foreign leader at his side at a white house podium, not in a ku convention hall, a campaign event but there being president, essentially, in a big way. and i think what's interesting, too, is he may have in essence boxed in republicans because at this point it's if you break with trump some may accuse you of taking cues from the democratic president. but if you don't, of course, it could continue to cause damage for the party. i don't think most republicans are going to find my reason to break from trump to say they're not voting for him or supporting him until it shows

jackie kucinich is a washington from "the daily beast."them cnn senior political analyst and senior editor for "the atlantic" ron brownstein. welcome to all of you. >> thank you. >> julian, provide us with some historical perspective, all the high-powered republicans coming out against the nominee. is this unprecedented? there are more than 50, more than 60, right? we couldn't count them all this morning. >> pretty remarkable and unprecedented. you had controversial nominees, barry goldwater in 1964, many republicans didn't like hubert humphrey in 1968 many democrats didn't like. this outpouring of opposition going into the general election is quite stunning. i think it poings to an unrest about trump as a candidate, and it points to republicans looking at poor polling numbers including states like georgia and utah and seeing this could be a disaster for the party. >> jackie, you heard what jason carroll said, the election is 90 days away, he has plenty of time. does he? >> that should be done by now, right? now it's about the independents

former congressman, dennis kucinich, cleveland democrat, working with latourette working with jobs inteel mills and diverting rail traffic from residential areas. in this time of polarization in america, steve provided an example of what could be done when your party is your lesser concern, said kucinich. you can read more at cleveland.com. >>> house speaker paul ryan tweeting out this morning, all of us will miss our friend and colleague, steve latourette. nobody could match his fierce sense of duty or his great sense of humor. >> tonight an q&a -- on q and amount. he provides his thoughts on the documents that provided greatest impact on the world. from the magna carta and declaration of independence to martin luther king, jr.'s, "i have a dream" speech. and wikileaks. that starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. and on booktv in prime time, race in america. 8:00 p.m., carol anderson, white rage, the unspoken truth of racial divide. . . >> government abuse is arguably one-sided. i think there's a couple of reasons. when i started this i care about free speech. i'm a bit of a libertarian w

our panel now, jack kucinich, christine quinn and corey lewandowski is back with us.ngela rye. and trump supporter joseph berelli. jack, for the folks in that room, who were all trump supporters, it was very well received. donald trump needs to reach out to other people who maybe haven't been receptive to him yet. do you think he did that today with this speech? >> it sounded like it. yes, trump supporters would be very pleased by that speech, but this wasn't a speech meant to expand to other people, or didn't sound that way. we were talking about extreme immigration, it onalready takes8 to 24 months to get people into this country. >> congressman, did this speech reach out to you? >> i think donald trump's problem is, does he appear presidential. that is an issue that's been exacerba exacerbated. to the controversy with the khans through the convention, and so his struggle is to really appear to be the commander in chief, to be confident enough, to be knowledgeable enough, and to have the ability to project american power appropriately. >> do you think he came out li

panel here in washington with me, our chief political kpant dana bash, cnn political analyst jackie kucinich from the daily bees, carol lee with us from the "wall street journal." in new york, our global affairs and economics analyst ali velshi, in new york for us. lots to discuss with all of you guys. dana, how effective is this strategy now, doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down that the president of the united states and the democratic nominee are the co-finders of isis? >> let's take a step back. i looked up the actual definition of founder. it is a person who establishes an institution or settlement. so a founder would be like if i founded the wolf blitzer fan club which i do because i believe in that cause. this is suggesting that president obama and hillary clinton believe in the cause of isis, which is just not true. it's just flat out not true. but suggesting that kind of goes back to what he has done for a while which is kind of playing to the fears and the concerns of people in this country who don't like president obama, that he is somehow not doing what he can to help a

the chief political correspondent dana bash, and cnn political analyst david gregory, and jackie kucinich is the washington bureau chief for the daily beast. dana, it has happened before and people say, he has gone too far this time, and it is going to hurt him, and it did not hurt him going into the general election and won it decisively and impressively and beating 16 serious candidates governors and senators with a lot of money. >> sure, absolutely. donald trump repeated it many times over the weekend, the general electorate is different, and the open question that we won't know until november is whether or not this kind of strategy is going to work with a broader electorate. based on the way that republicans across the board have reacted the answer is probably no, but we will see. >> and you saw the interview with general flynn, and the head of the foreign intelligence agency to support e her, ahim, said that he read the statement from senator mccain, and it is time to say that even though the party has given him the nomination, it is not unfettered license to defame those among us. >

joining us now from washington, former democratic congressman dennis kucinich.y, congressman, let's go. what do you like best and what didn't you like from what you heard from governor pence, the vice presidential nominee. >> first, let me tell you what i did like. once again, governor pence proved why he was chosen by donald trump. he presents himself in a very level headed way. he explains things. he has a depth of knowledge of government. and he was a solid choice and he continues to demonstrate that. >> okay. now, let's talk a little bit about the clinton foundation. he wants and donald trump and mike pence are calling for independent prosecutor to take a look. side from what the fbi may or may not be doing. they want to take a look at the clinton foundation dealings. what do you think of the clinton foundation. >> first of all, the questions about raised pay to play are questions of the public interest. they have to be looked at. they cannot be dismissed out of hand. as far as the appointment of a special prosecutor by the president, you have to remember th

also with us is jackie kucinich, cnn political analyst and washington bureau chief for the daily beast. and brad woodhouse, hillary clinton supporter and president of correct the record and americans united for change. doesn't anyone just have one title anymore. alice, i want to start -- >> never. >> this fund-raising pitch from paul ryan uses the language, you know, don't give a blank check to a hillary clinton. "the washington post" notes historically those are loaded words. in 1996 republicans used that towards the end of the election because they were nervous bob dole was going to lose. they did that to try to preserve their majority in the house. is this a message from paul ryan to republicans around the country we think we're going to lose the white house now, it's time to take evasive action? >> it's not unusual for fund-raising e-mails to have such do or die language like this, it's a call to action, it's an urgent plea for funds quickly and large sums. they had a great fund-raising month last month. this kind of language is not unusual. after the last seven days or so, there i

i'm joined now by our senior political reporter reporter and kucinich. the president has said before that donald trump was temperamentally unfit, that's what hilary clinton uses. and this time he was stronger. >> he has used the word unqualified. in is a break. this is a departure from the way this president has talked about donald trump it's really a departure from the way we've seen any i think candidate going against another candidate in a presidential campaign. and he said that. he said he may have disagreed with mitt romney, he may have disagreed with john mccain, but if those two would have won the white house, he wouldn't have a problem with how they would operate in the office. this was i think a preview what we're going to see from this president, the speech last week i think hinted at many of these things but it certainly didn't use this strong of language in terms of characterizing donald tru trump. this goes to donald trump's character, his judgment, his temperament and his knowledge. so strong words here, and we'll see what not only donald t

also back with us, jackie kucinich, cnn political commentator.to start with you because we just heard from you in that clip right there. you say you were trafficking in rumors and innuendos about hillary clinton's health, no? >> no, that's not what i was g doing. she said hillary clinton had two incidents, a concussion and a blood clot, previously, and that's why we want the medical records. poppy's response was, but that was a long time ago. the bottom line is, just release the medical records. that's what it comes down to. let the american people see. they have a right to know about what kind of mental or physical condition our commander and chief is in. that's all there is to it. just release them. >> donald trump hasn't released his medical records either, nor his tax records are. are you for donald trump releasing them also? >> i don't have a problem with either. i think we deserve to know what kind of physical health our commander in chief is in, absolutely. >> i mean, we're all for trap pa transparency. your former boss rudy giuliani was o

director michael lord, and basil smikle and hillary clinton supporter and timothy neftali and jackie kucinichstart with you. the president's on the defensive, right? >> right. >> he's exasperated and this doesn't look good and it looks terrible. >> you have a plane with cash going one way and hostages the other way within the same day and when asked, can you say that cash did not go for terrorism? yet donald trump is talking about a video that doesn't exist? >> to be perfectly candid, i saw that and that's what i thought i was seeing and this is the video of the hostages getting off of a plane in switzerland. >> in watching it i thought -- this is the video, right. exactly. so i mean, easy enough to mistake, but if the hostages are getting on or off they're getting on or off because the cash was sent. let me add one other thing. i worked in the reagan white house during what was known the iran-contra scandal in which arms were traded for hostages and he said no they weren't, no they weren't, and finally they came to the conclusion that yes, there were. there was a major to-do about this and a

. >> dennis kucinich could have said this stuff. this is again another indication of the fact she's running as someone from the far left, doesn't feel as you suggested before she needs to take the center back in any serious way, doesn't feel inshe needs to tak her party on in any serious way and while she's courting the party, it's clear that on policy, she's very comfortable running center left and not doing anything as her husband did, as barack obama did, to say to the party in a serious policy oriented way we need to make some changes. >> i think the fact that trump has gone very very traditional republican and has gone from 3535 to 15 on the business tax allows her to stay there. >> let's look at a piece on trade policy. she continues to very clearly distance herself from president obama and not to cede any ground on this issue to donald trump. >> i will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages, including the trans-pacific partnership. i oppose it now, i will oppose it after the election and i will oppose it as p

republican party and cnn political analyst and washington bureau chief for the daily beast jackie kucinich. i love the brady bunch. we are back here. >> hit us with your best shot, kate. >> thank you so much, hilary. pete, of all the things that concern republicans, one thing chief among them is donald trump dragging on the ticket, hurting senate races, hurting congressional races and so on and so forth. these numbers, how concerning are they to you? >> certainly i think hillary clinton got a bounce from her convention. i think that's where president obama's higher approval rating is coming from as well, a bounce from the convention. people thought he did a very decent job. these numbers are going to be volatile. they're going to go up and down. but senate races, congressional races, gubernatorial races, they're going to focus on their home turf, they're going to focus on their own voters. he's not concerned about people endorsing him. he cares about his voters at home in his district and that's where he's going to put all his chips. >> pete, you gave me the perfect segue for this next bit

ohio congressman dennis kucinich. tennessee congresswoman marsha black earned. former navy seal and contributor brought the mail and trump campaign cochairman c. end quote list. you don't want msn and then. less than 100 days away from the election on the rhetoric heating up the campaign trail. donald trump continuing appeal for supporters while hillary clinton's van strums view of america. let's listen in. >> when they showed her in a very angry because he made a bad deal. he should have not made a deal. he would've gone down and then something really important. once he made that deal, believe me, he has buyers remorse. this guy has buyers remorse. he looked at that and he was so angry when they were talking about and it is people are angry at him and he should be. if you have not done anything, just go home, go to sleep, relax, he would've been a hero. ready-made to do with the devil. >> he has said so many things that i profoundly committed unit late disagree with. [cheers and applause] for the life of me, i don't know why someone wants to be president of the

and jackie kucinich and mark preston. okay. so mj, this harkens us back to the early days of clinton investigating when there was a special prosecutor, independent counsel appointed. let's leave to the aside that trump can't call for somebody like this. this is done by branchs of government, congress, the judicial branch. he can't call for one of these. what's the play? >> no. this was very strong rhetoric we saw from donald trump last night. remember, this is coming after it was revealed that he's going to be postponing a major policy speech on immigration that was supposed to come later this week. i think clearly we are seeing a strategy from donald trump sort of focussing in on hillary clinton and her e-mail issues. this is an issue that is very sort of vulnerable for hillary clinton and that trump has really struggled to get the candidate to really focus in on -- >> what's the play. he can't make one happen. the people who would make one happen or don't seem disposed to do that, so what does he get out of this. >> certainly

cnn analyst jackie kucinich. cnn-manu raju. and clarissa ward. jackie, in terms of what trump needed to do here, meat on the bones. do you think he did enough to distinguish himself from one liners in policy? >> this was definitely a more policy-laiden speech than other trump speeches then again other trump speeches. i don't know if there was a lot of meat on the bones. there were a lot of ideas but he didn't fill them out at all. it seems like another speech to trump supporters. i don't know this expanded his reach with other voters, particularly that line about the extreme test for immigrants. that isn't targeted to broadening the republican base. that's directed solely to the folks who already support donald trump. >> help us understand what the process is. is donald trump right that there could be better vetting of refugees or do they already have what they consider extreme vetting in terms of painstaking process? how does it work? >> well, i think the u.s. is very well known for having one of the most stringent vetting processes that there i

cnn political analyst and washington bureau chief of "the daily beast," jackie kucinich. jackie, it sounds like trump yesterday was able to sort of right the trump train. he had these two rallies. the first 11 minutes of which went well. maybe all of them went well. >> so you're saying there's a chance. >> i'm actually not trying to be facetious. he stayed on message, then he veered off message, but the crowd liked it. he was sort of complying with f we believe the reports, his top lieutenants who want him to keep hammering at hillary. >> you know, the crowd is donald trump's problem. when he can stay on script, when he's not getting that reaction, he does fine. but it's that fuel that the crowd, the lock her up chant you hear at trump rallies, just how excited the crowd is by some of his rhetoric, just takes him off path. i don't think we're going to see trump ever really stick to the script all the time because time and time again we've seen him divert. he can't help himself. he also said hillary clinton created isis or something yesterday. she went from the devil to th

let's bring back jackie kucinich and errol louis. what's the law behind this? 302s are the official fbi interview documents, right. that's what makes a lie to the feds a crime, that it's written down and it's seen as perjury in itself. they're not going to get the 302s. they're going to get the notes from people in the room. this is kind of a compromise. how does it play, errol? >> my guess is that it will not quell the controversy. there will be some word somewhere in there that the republicans will seize on because remember, we heard from comey himself saying, you know, she was careless, there was this, there was that. anything sort of an actual indictment, i think, is not going to satisfy clinton's opponents. so they will start complaining. i'm sure they have their talking points lined up in advance. they will find a word, a phrase that suggests some kind of a problem. they will blow it up into sort of a full-blown culpability and wonder why she hasn't been indicted and you go from there to the lock her up chants that happen daily at the trump rallies. >> th

let's bring back our panel, jacksy kucinich and errol lewis.rk times" has fascinating reporting about how each camp is preparing. let me read what they said about hillary clinton's camp. they enlisted the ghost writer of the donald trump biography the art of the deal. hillary clinton's advisers are talking to donald trump's ghost writer of the art of the deal seeking insights about mr. trump's deepest insecurities as they devise strategies to needle and undermine him. that's pretty fascinating about how that might look on the debate stage. >> yeah. i mean, this is going to be a debate like we haven't seen before. i think it's fair to say that. and what the clinton campaign needs to do is they need to make donald trump look as unpresidential and unhinged as they have been saying. one of the ways to do that, to set him off. start needling him as it said in that story and really set him off kilter. if they can do that, it will -- that will be very much to their benefit. and reiterate the message that they've been putting out there. >> the trick wi

former congressman dennis kucinich who supports keeping the estate tax. you understand where people are coming from. you are taxed throughout your entire life. your pay is taxed. you invest that money. that's taxed if you're lucky enough to make money on it. you hand it over to someone as a gift, that is taxed. taxes, taxes, taxes. this is tough because newly-made people of wealth are having a tough time passing that on to others. why should we even have this anymore? >> well, first of all, you have to take a look estate taxation within the context of the entire tax system. entire tax system hs been structured to help accelerate the wealth of the country upwards. you have to consider people in the tax bracket that secretary clinton is talking about, those who are in the top .2 of 1%, or .4 of 1%, these are individuals even before they get to that moment of passing on, they have ways like residents trust or foundations. in other words, they can minimize their tax exposure. the third point is this, in a society which is democracy, you can not permit inherit

we have jackie kucinich. political reporter sarah murray live for us in front of trump tower. she has been covering donald trump for the entirety. i want to talk to you about this shake up. donald trump hired steve bannon. this is the head of breitbart news, his new campaign ceo. you have kellyanne conway. she is now campaign manager. she is now -- i done want to say establishment, but someone well established in political circles for sure. by hiring these people, mark, what is the take away. >> it is not surprising when you see a presidential campaign shake things up. we have seen that with the donald trump campaign already. we saw it in 2004, john kerry did a change. so did john mccain and hillary clinton. we have seen a change twice win just two months. 60 days, of donald trump trying to right the ship. and to your point, a lot of people don't know who he is or have any idea who he is, but he is very powerful, he understands the media and how to be provocative. i understand that donald trump was getting fr

. >>> our panel now, jackie kucinich, washington bureau chief for the daily beast. also joseph borelli, a trump supporter and republican commentator. and chris kofinis. jackie, what did you make of her answer? >> hillary clinton was that answer. it is legalese, tripping down on an answer that we know isn't accurate. she's sticking to her story, but it is generating headlines because it's not getting rid of the issue which is kind of what the goal should be, right? to move on from this. she's not allowing us to because she's not giving us a good answer. >> chris, what's your reaction? >> well, my perspective is focus on things that are more to your advantage, which is the litany of mistakes and misstatements that trump has made. >> but wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. because you do need to respond to what we just heard from hillary clinton and the fact that she this week has said some statements about her truthfulness about her e-mail system. and the fact of the matter is she implied in earlier interviews that she had been complete truthful with the publ

. >>> let me bring in my panel, jackie kucinich, eugene scott is here today, david catanese, and also with us on the clinton e-mails and what's been given to congress today, evan perez, our justice correspondent. david, begin with you on this notion that even broadly talking about mr. ailes giving mr. trump some help when it comes to these upcoming debates. is that like the pr move ever or is that brilliant given roger ailes' political chops? >> look, i don't think it is the best pr move right now for donald trump given the cloud that is hanging over roger ailes. but this is plausible denightability. he can say he is talking to him but not getting formal or informal advice. right? they can have this sort of both ways. trump has been out there and called ailes a friend in the midst when that story was breaking, in the midst of controversy, he stood by him. he has said that he's had a long-time relationship to him. we know that trump -- just from my own reporting, we know that trump goes to ulterior sources to talk about his campaign. he goes outside and talks to a lot of people that he

i want to bring back our panel to talk about this errol louis, jackie kucinich and maif resten.start by telling you what is in the plan. for instance, you have three tax brackets instead of the several we currently have. he is saying that he would lower rates to 12%, 25% and 33%. and that there would be a 0% tax rate for poorest americans. then look at what he would do with corporate americans, 15% cap. moratorium on new business regulations and completely renegotiate nafta. when it comes to naf tarks that's something that bill clinton signed into law, hillary clinton supported back in the day. she has sort of flip-flopped on trade a little bit, but where is he targeting and who will be receptive to this message? >> well, it will be receptive in the so-called rust belt, in the places that have been hurt by manufacturing jobs going overseas. so he has pounded this over and over again in michigan, in pennsylvania, in ohio. he thinks he's going to get some traction there. the problem with that or the difficulty he faces is that there's no straight line correlation. he can't point t

we also have jackie kucinich. kellyanne conway, we all know her, known her for a while. smooth.ut the terrible things breitbart puts up, she transitions easily without hostility. can her candidate be those things? that's always going to be the question. there's only so much staff can do and then it's really up to the candidate. but what a skilled mess for donald trump. that was very clear from alisyn's interview. let's take a small moment in the interview just as an example. michael cohen and how he answered a question about the polls yesterday. you played that moment with brianna keilar. versus how she answered it, which is, no, we are a little behind, and that's the fuel we're riding. what a more solid and honest assessment of the state of the race. >> mark, what about what she said about what she believes her goal is now for donald trump? and that is to let trump be trump and to let the candidate start having fun again, basically, she said. you know, he likes being at those big rallies. he gets his fuel from that. what do you think of that plan? >> here's the biggest strength

we have mark preston, david frum, and jackie kucinich. how big of a deal are these announcements? >> huge. it's a very big deal. the question is, why did it take so long, when this could have brushed aside. we're at 80-odd days out right now before the election day. this is just another distraction for the clinton campaign, which has done pretty well at a time when the trump campaign had been faltering. it does call into question certainly these new revelations about what was the connection, if any, between the clinton foundation and the state department. >> and also, jackie, to you, the rnc jumped on this and came out right after and said in a statement, in part, look, if everything was above board before, why make any changes now? so it's sort of -- they're saying you lose either way. >> yeah, i mean, they're going to make a political issue of this, as they should. the clinton foundation has been nothing but trouble for hillary clinton. she didn't have to put her name on the foundation when she left being secretary of state. so this is

cnn political analyst and washington bureau chief for the daily beast, jackie kucinich, and "washington post" reporter philip rucker. we've all had time to digest this. isn't the simple proposition that you can't be sure what donald trump meant when he said it, and that is the problem, his intentions aside. >> that link to the fact he never fully explains or apologizes for the outrageous comments. if you can't be sure, and he won't explain and won't apologize and he's got surrogates, by the way, who give you four or five, a menu of different options. some say it's a joke. some say it's misinterpreted. some say it's media bias. they kind of leave it out there and let everybody figure it out for themselves. what that does, among other things, is give everybody permission to put their own interpretation on it. so "the daily news" takes it one way, someone else takes it another way, his followers say it's media bias, and we end up with confusion instead of a focused message. >> should we play it again? >> i think we should. >> here's what he said. we'll discuss your interpretation. >> hilla

let's discuss this now with errol louis, jackie kucinich, and phil mattingly, still here. >> can't get rid of me. >> 90 seconds after his piece is over. donald trump says the system is rigged. president barack obama scoffed at the notion, errol. why does donald trump keep bringing this up? >> i think in some ways he's got nowhere else to go. he's got to explain why he's 15 points down in this poll. obviously if the numbers were reversed, the system would not be rigged. you'd be saying that, you know, very strong numbers and it shows we've got a lot of support. he's got to give some explanation to his supporters. so i think that's at least part of it. also, it's part of his core argument. the system can't be trusted, the system can't be fair, and this is partly why, you know, part of the outrageous situation that requires you all to support me. this is something he's been saying to his supporters really pretty much from the beginning. so it's really all of a piece. it doesn't advance him, i think, one bit toward actual victory, but i think it's something we've heard from him before. >>

and reporter for "the daily beast," jackie kucinich. for a year, donald trump has been saying he will deport every single undocumented immigrant. and just to remind ourselves how strongly and vociferously he said that, watch this compilation. >> we're rounding them up in a very humane way and nice way. they're going to be happy because they want to be legalized. by the way, i know it doesn't sound nice, but not everything is nice. they're going back where they came. if they came from a certain country, they're going to be brought back to that country. that's the way it's supposed to be. now, they can come back, but they have to come back legally. they will go out, they will come back, some will come back, the best, through a process. they have to come back legally. >> alex, this was one of the tenants of his campaign. how can he change his tune? >> i don't know if he can. it's standard for republicans running for president to run to the right during the primary and try to moderate their tone during the general election. we saw mitt romn