but more importantly, i think judge kuczynski's comment towards the end of the quote, i may not have included that, is the mistake of giving up your arms, his mistake you only get to make once. thank you. >> a reminder to all of you in the audience, as the wheels are take your cards and send them to the aisle. this is a question -- and i have to stand up again. to answer this. we will not be able to go back and forth. this is the question from -- to john donohue. if implementing australian or european-style gun restrictions in the united states would save 15,000 lives per year, would you support this? 10,000 lives, 5000 lives? >> america had the opportunity to remain a european colony in 1776 and we rejected it. we rejected the european mindset of being governed by our superiors. we went on to write a constitution that endures. often is philosophy different for different parts of the world. necessarilye not critical -- and furthermore, and i will violate godwin's rule about tendering europe as a model for gun control policy. the best documentation we have of the abuse of gun control