>> this is the divide with kugel and microsoft to get rid of copyrights but they cannot live on she's. some of them came and. >> and biscuits and rice. >> why we are here. >> are you on this attitude was publishing and finance? >> we have an instinct for the people that produce literature or history but we're not in the business to make lot. and we have an instinct wanting to have access. there is the distinction between supporting the concept that is a powerful question. coming from the legislative background of a fairly narrow commercial interest dictated a process added period of time i doubt if exactly the same decisions would pass with today's environment to. if it is pared back we'll be part of the legislators but the copyright to itself should be maintained in this framework is the question. >> spending any money on the book? >> they will spend money. >> it would help. there are materials with the things that libraries all over the world and that is why we're very hopeful the digital public library of america will help with the digitization and also the projects fettered going

you know they have been kugel the night for all apple products. what is going on? a massive meaningful shift? >> competition has arrived. you are seeing competitive lower priced products coming out of samsung, coming from amazon, google. you think about apple. for them to achieve this deal the people are talking about and then maintain price point and the margins, that is going to be a difficult thing. the concern is that china is one of the fastest-growing markets for smart phones. apple is not taking their share that many people have. liz: of the chinese are over, what are they buying? >> android. in fact, co-chairman went so far as to say it's over. android one. liz: i know. >> three out of four. north of a million today. three out of four phones sold are running the android operating system. as prices come down, this is the situation. liz: what is your call? >> i have a hold rating on it. finally, the stock is into a territory where we find -- we start to find it interesting. it is not a broken name. this is a stock that clearly is going to appeal to many peopl

would i like it, same old miller or lyne kugel, what am i drinking. >> it is owned 100% by miller companys beer lover to make the decision. adam: are they putting in old, like taco bell, they serve one thing in 15 different packages is that what the beer companies are doing? are they putting different product under different labels? >> it is interesting what is going on and the lines are becoming blurred. we have 2300 breweries in the united states. 97% of them qualify for our definition of craft brewer, small and independently owned. still so much of the beer in the marketplace sold by large producers is very hard to tell it is not craft. adam: julia, seems like a simple question, i'm sorry to keep hitting you on it. >> no, go ahead. adam: are they putting in their product,ing a good as might be in the, five different bottles with a different label but exact same thing if i go get a six-pack of miller? is that what they're doing? >> that is not at all what we're talking about here. we're not talking about quality. we're talking about who owns certain brands. that is very important. adam:

and certainly self publishing amazon and the kugel and apple have in their rush of publishing have, perhaps, taken a different stand on the standard. perhaps even lower the bar of quality in the kind of books that man has been talking about for all of us have been talking about really. because i see it as a money-making business. in other words, the more you turn up the more money you make. does not matter whether it is self published books or whenever , but what happens, of course, is that the publishing enterprise that requires state keeping that judgment and sort of a notion of what is it that makes it a book great and lasting an indoor rink and a piece of literature or a piece of important information, sometimes that goes by the by when you keep making more and more books. so i ask you, are we making too many books? certainly, the librarians and the audience here have been archiving them maybe are a little fearful when i quoted the figures about ahead 50,000 going to 330,000 going to a million to 3 million. >> for those of you in the audience, i'm interested to know how many of you have