dozen countries is backing the new interim leader one way though russia and china support kumble nicolas maduro now we have france spain germany and britain who have recognized the new interim leader as president how long can you go on with this people are defecting from the administration one of your colleagues venezuela . rock defected accusing matter of violating the constitution an air force general near force. military attack show in washington no military attaché washington is gone how long can he hold the view doesn't depend on that i mean a president doesn't hold or doesn't hold on because of foreign countries ask them or like them or not he's impoverished the country and he's subject to the massive repression well i think the aim here is to have the transition that is taking place continue to take place peacefully we met with the. we met with. one guy goes representative the new ambassador to the united states and one white go is the president of venezuela at the present time we believe strongly that the morning to you we believe strongly that the. that the venezuelan people should be