i want to go back to kumi naidoo in south africa to talk about civil disobedience.hat is what you're known for, former head of greenpeace, now chair of africans rising for justice, peace, and dignity. what you think people around the world and in the united states, what do you think the responsibility is right now? >> well, i think it is clear that we put too much faith in political and business leaders over the last several decades, expecting them as parents and grandparents who have a vested interest in the future of the children, to do the right thing. the message that we get now out of washington and president trump one where we have to realize that if we as ordinary citizens do not stand up and take ownership of putting pressure on our political and business leaders in a much more stronger, peaceful, and bold way, we are not going to do the results we need. we are literally five minutes to midnight. we are seeing the devastation being caused already by existing climate impacts. people seem to have short memories. i would think the president trump would recall h

and video stream from south us,ca, kumi naidoo rejoins south african activist and the former head ofreenpeace. he is chairperson of "africans rising for justice, peace and dignity." and outside of london asad , rehman, executive director of "war on want." and antonia juhasz is an oil and energy journalist. her latest piece is headlined, "paramilitary security tracked and targeted #nodapl activists as "jihadists," docs show." let's go to michael mann and your response to just what happened yesterday in the white house rose garden. >> thank you. it is good to be with you. what can be said that hasn't already been said. i thought you laid it out well. the u.s. through the actions of donald trump as an international outlaw. we literally are on the sidelines with syria and nicaragua is the only -- and nicaragua has not signed onto the paris accord because they think it does not go far enough. as the only countries now that are not respecting the commitments of the paris accord. of most dangerous aspect that action is the potential ripple effect with the second largest emitter of carbon on

kumi naidoo, what does this mean? you are critical of the paris accord. what do you think it does as well, whatat do you think it dos well and doesn't do well? actuallyris accord dealt withth a very complicated set of politics, power, vested interest. we wanted to get a much more ambitious agreement, much more clear target, much more aggressive timelines to get us off our addiction to fossil fuels. what we have has given us a chance to live to fight another day. it says us on the direction that we need to go. and what we were hoping as people who said we have reservations, but our governments do the best they can, we will give them the benefit of the doubt, but every five years we will review it and look at what the science is saying and pick up the level of emission. for us in africa, people need to understand that it is not like climate impacts are going to hit a somewhere in the future. there arare parts of t the afrin continent that are becoming depopulated now as a result of climate intensisified desertificication and climate intensified drought. we