something like this which is very beautiful, look at the difference, this is a 'kunde', small little leaves, this is what we call 'kuhuroora' which is the pumpin leaf. >> are you succeeding, do you think in your effort to get people to come back to these very organic, very natural, fruits and vegetables? >> i think so; i think we are succeeding, because especially now we have these people getting sick from eating the wrong thing. >> susan explained to me that the so called rich man's diseases like diabetes and high blood pressure are starting to appear in the sector of kenyan society that can afford to eat at the fast food joints springing up around town. >> but susan there are factors addressing the availability of some of these traditional foods that you're trying to encourage people to eat right? >> yes, yes, this stall here handles lots of different beans. i was talking to the lady who man's this store and she says a tin like this, which is a common bean here, is a 170 shillings, that's like a days pay for many people. so you might find people who will buy that tin, take it home