you have to let in some real entrepreneur people kung into this country, change immigration and americawo things aren't happening. >> they're not happening now and in the middle of all this, lots of people with nowhere to go. >> steve's point is a good point. the most salient fact of this decade, economy, we need a median decline. americans don't begrudge -- >> first time in history for a full decade. >> first time. interests, relates to the paint you make. we didn't go down from 2001, 2010, went down from 2001 to 2007, before the recession hit. if middle income don't feel the ladder keeps going up you don't have the american dream anymore. that's serious stuff. and we should all be thinking about how to deal with that. when i meet with business leaders, my biggest beef is not that they want things for think company. where is their push for education to make it better and stronger? they have to get involved on the national scene. even on this debt. where are they? you don't hear their voices. >> we had senator clyburn on and asked about reforming medicare as part of the deal for the deb