>> guest: harriet rabb cut her legal teeth with kuntsler, kuntsler & cannoy, a very famous and, to some people, infamous law firm that defended almost every radical in the united states, black or white, during the '60s and early '70s. william kuntsler is still very well-known for taking on unpopular clients. that is where she learned her law, at the feet, basically, of arthur cannoy, the partner of kuntsler. she had an fbi file, i mean, this thick. her second husband, bruce, came from a staunchly republican family. maxwell rabb, his father, was, i believe, reagan's ambassador to italy. he was eisenhower's cabinet secretary -- staunchly republican family. and bruce rabb was in the civil-rights liaison office of richard nixon, again a republican white house. and his wife was considered by the fbi as a subversive, and she lost a number of jobs because of the kinds of meetings she was going to, being a lawyer for one client or another. she became the lawyer of the women's caucus and the class-action suit that represented all the women at the new york times in every job. and she also was the