joining me is chris kuntz of delaware. being here. >> thank you. >> president trump wants to talk economics, that's the thing he cares about, about his re-elect more than anything else. it seems to be -- his concern seems to be the way the coronavirus is sort of spreading throughout the united states is damaging the economy, his top goal. does that align with the top goal of democrats because it seems to me the health of the american people should be somewhere in the top two of the things you care about. >> well, that's right. i'm a lot less concerned about falling values in the stock market and wall street than the day-to-day working people who have to deal with the possibility their kids schools will close, that they'll be required to stay home from work and miss a paycheck and the rapidly spreading concerns about whether folks can get tested, whether those tests will be free, whether they can get access to quality, affordable health care, and whether or not their family checkbook will balance if they have to stay home f