kuo had another source inside the pentagon, and kuo was connected to spies on the west coast who werechnology. presumably, the u.s. is doing the same kind of spying in china, but michelle van cleave says america has so much more to lose. >> i think we're a real candy store for the chinese and for others in terms of technology and commercial products or other proprietary information, and so we will always be the principal target for them. >> what is the most serious damage that chinese espionage has done to the united states? >> it's the totality of the collection effort. take a case like this or cases like this-- traditional espionage, penetration of the interior-- couple that with industrial and economic collection. couple that with cyber. it greatly concerns me. it greatly concerns me. >> well, i hope this all works out. i mean, you are helping me a lot here, but i don't want anyone to know about our relationship or anything because it could get me in a lot of trouble. >> bergersen kept saying, "i could go to jail," and both men did. in 2008, prosecutors showed them this tape, and t

. >> i'll bet if you look at your budget you have selected kuo whou u think the i highest. >> you knowe three. >> why is it trending? what is it that makes it trent, do you thin do you think? >> critics. >> now they're saying they're counting on the harvey factor. no, no, no. it's the harvey factor. >> it's the weinstein coming. last weekend we opened the movie and it's a smash hit even with tony scott getting it wrong in "the new york times." chris tells me i have to say controversial stuff or they're not going to have me. if it pleases chris -- >> are you doing matt damon and ben affleck? are you getting them back together? >> in "the new york times" article last week it was about two long shore fine visit. e-mailed ben affleck and said i always lrch u to sue you under water. you play the act. >> i don't hear an answer harvey. >> what they wrote back to me i cannot say on a television show. >> you're getting into television. i i'm getting into "marko polo "about the mafia a. i'm going to do breaking bad. >> what's trending over 12 years? >> leo dicaprio said it and this truth and it'

to come to a deal, there's got to be a quilled pro kuo and i think the problems in geneva are that we're going to have to deliver relief of sanctions and having worked on sanctions in the state department, i know there's an incredible web of bilateral, multilateral sanctions out there and they're owned by various groups. i'm really worried about our ability to be able to deliver on relief sanctions to lure the anians to give on the n -- nukes. >> so just briefly, it's interesting that iranian economists who are advising the government told me that the new budget for iran aassumes that sanctions will continue. in other words, although they desire sanctions relief, they're not writing their budget based on the idea that there'll be a new wind at all. indeed, the -- wind fuel. -- wind fall. the most interesting thing that rouhani is doing through his economic ministers is troying to -- trying to get the import-export balance in better oil independent of exporlts. they're trying to boost petrochemical scales and a crank -- range of things at the same time that they lower unnecessary imports

meanwhile, a comment by kuo kcun "the new york times," outrageous republicans. seems pretty muted. "sympathy for robert mcdonnell not showing up in former governor's defense fund" according to "the washington post." it seems they always press the republicans harder than the democrats. >> well, in the case of chris christie, you have somebody who was probably, until recently, the republican party front-runner for president. and therefore, i think it is sort of natural that he's going to get more scrutiny. also because of his situation and all of the loose ends and the ongoing investigation, that's an enormous story. i'm going to assume that andrew cuomo got carried away with a little partisan exuberance when he said that people who are pro-life should leave new york. i don't think he was telling cardinal dolan to pack up and leave. i don't think. >> yeah. >> but, again, you've got analysis pieces as opposed to pieces criticizing governor cuomo. and the mcdonnell story, in all hones honesty, one had of day story. former governor, not going to be president, probably going to jail, com