joining me now is kurt bardella. kurt, always so good to see you. from donald trump all the time, but even i am noting that this latest rhetoric is beyond the pale. am i an outlier on this? >> no, it means you have a functioning brain, katie, and your ears and brain are connected and you're hearing all the things the rest of us normal sane people are hearing. let's be clear here -- after january 6th we know that it's not just rhetoric, it's not just performative, it's not just, i guess, entertainment, what some people might want to call it. this is real. the people that follow donald trump, his most ardent supporters, they hear his words and take them as marching orders take them as directions, and as we saw on january 6th, they act on them. so this isn't just harmless play room donald trump, oh that's what he does, it's hyperbole. this is dangerous. the fact that so many people in the republican party are willing to whitewash what happened january 6th tell mess their plan going forward is if they don't get their way politically they'll instruct the