kurt cobain. you know, this is mental health. addiction is mental health. it is illness.nd, you know, because it's -- it's not a black thing. addiction. we've moved way-past that. you know, where people think, really, that's an inner-city thing. no. suburbs are getting devoured. >> well, that's where the issues started with opiates and heroin, in the suburbs. that's when people said, oh, wow, we need to do something about it. it is ravaging our suburbs which is filled with, what? not people of color, right? now, the whole criticism about what is the difference between that when there was this scourge of crack in the inner city? there is no different. addiction is addiction is addiction, as i have always said here. >> it's absolutely true. but, you know, if you want to play that game. it should be played. crack was designed for the poor. >> yeah. >> it was high value. and that's why it worked well. you know, junkies have a perverse mentality. they hear about an overdose, that is the best marketing a dealer can hope for because people want the most bang for their buck. reme