and i don't even know if you realized it at the time, but we watched kurt russell over and over again. that was such a singular moment in americana that it really we'll never forget it, and we want to watch every olympics to see how our team does in hockey now. >> well, i mean, the u.s. doesn't -- isn't the underdog a lot. and certainly not an underdog to the extent that it was. and then as the opponent being the soviet national team, i mean, it was just -- it was unbelievable. i mean, it really was something that was not possible to happen. and it happened. >> you know, the players and brooks, and we lost him too early. jimmy craig and eruzione. anyway, here we are today. and it doesn't matter that they're not, like, college kids and non -- i mean, we still love this because we should have the very best guys playing to represent their country, right? so that's fine, right? that it's nhl guys? >> oh, absolutely. and i think that -- i think they will be at their best. each country now prepares itself very well leading up to the games. even if the players are involved in their nhl seaso