kurt volker and ivan land. --eland. ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] you, good morning to hillary clinton is in pennsylvania today with the running mate, tim kaine. appeal to working-class voters by highlighting her middle-class childhood. meanwhile, donald trump has push to renegotiate trade deals and limit immigration. our question to you this morning is, which party do you best represent america's working-class. here is how we are breaking down the phone lines, if you make less than $20,000 a year call (202) 748-8000, between $25,000 and $50,000, your number is (202) 748-8001, if you make more than $50,000 year you can call us at (202) 748-8002. you can also find us on social tweet us your thoughts and find us on facebook. donaldllary clinton and trump has been trying to ramp up their efforts to appeal to america's working-class custom he was donald trump's latest ad. [video clip] lies the the glitter stark truth. hillary clinton's america, things get worse. taxes keep rising, terro

host: we are speaking with kurt volker, a former u.s. ambassador to nato and also now works for the mccain institute on leadership. what are your thoughts when you hear that clip? he sayson of the things have a pretty solid basis in u.s. policy. by complaining how much nato countries spell on -- spend on defense, that is what we have heard for the last 20 or 30 years. gdp is said to target 2% of to be spent on defense and as he said, not every country meets their target. we would like to see a lot more countries spend more on defense. host: here is a chart we have from publication defense one that shows how much countries spend on their own defense, nato members. the united states lays the way at 3.6% of the budget. greece, poland, the united kingdom, and estonia are 2% and the others are lagging. guest: he is talking about terrorism a lot in that clip, that nato does not do a lot about terrorism. the only time that nato invoked its collective defense guarantee, what were you -- what we were talking about, was after september 11. after t

kurt volker and ivan land.-eland. ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] you, good morning to hillary clinton is in pennsylvania today with the running mate, tim kaine. appeal to working-class voters by highlighting her middle-class childhood. meanwhile, donald trump has push to renegotiate trade deals and limit immigration. our question to you this morning is, which party do you best represent america's working-class. here is how we are breaking down the phone lines, if you make less tn

host: you can join in the conversation with kurt volker. democrats, your line is (202) 748-8000 if you want to call in. republicans, (202) 748-8001 and .ndependents, (202) 748-8002 you can also send us a tweet. if nato is primarily an external facing organization, is donald trump right it is sort of obsolete? guest: i do not think it is obsolete at all because just because the soviet union has gone away does not mean the ofeats to security democracies in europe and the united states have gone away. we still have lots of threats, and nato is a very important vehicle for bringing all of those countries together, coordinating our efforts, and making a stronger in how we respond. of course we would like to see the load balanced out more, but we benefit, the united states benefits tremendously from having secure democratic market economic space from having countries that are willing to go with us to kosovo, bosnia, afghanistan. when we see a need for u.s. intervention in the world, the only countries that have reliably been willing to do that ha