here to react kurt volker former ambassador to nato. in our nation's capitol but you have the sense of how these leaks are reverberating in other capitals. how damaging is this? >> well, i don't think it's that damaging in terms of the content. there is very little that has come out so far that we didn't already know. you know, we knew the russian military was in a shamables. we knew the ukrainians were low on ammunition. some of this is a few months old as well. so operational plans keep changing. so i don't think it's damaging in that way. it is embarrassing for the united states we can't keep secrets. that is troubling. >> brian: we have special forces on the ground. looks like the russians doctored the documents after they arrived on telegram and decreased the number of casualties and make it seem like nato is fighting there. spain is denying this. the u.s. just denied it. what's the truth? >> well, the fact is we really don't know who leaked these documents and why. we're getting that one story today of, you know, some guy named o.

by including the defense giant reton technologies remember there was such kurt volker, the special representative of the us state department for ukraine during the existence of the minsk agreements is still in the game promoting the supply of new weapon systems to kiev, long-range weapons. they need it in order to be able to strike at russian supply lines to the territory of ukraine at the points of deployment of russian troops with an armory with a treasure of fuel and bridges, for example, along the crimean one. maybe that's what he is now. no, this is a walker, being the special representative of the state department for ukraine in 2018 convinced trump to put kiev in anti-tank systems. jivilin, production rating, volker was already working in the lobbying company known to us on december 1 last year. this defense concert received an order for the production of missiles for ukraine in the amount of 1 billion 200,000 dollars on blood, american bigwigs make billions. did the minsk agreements have any chance? not only ukraine is on the website of the us department of justice and documents relating

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here we see in the case of ukraine, we have heard from kurt volker, who said he's less worried about leak and what allies will of the way that intelligence is being analyzed. >> mostf the damage is not so much in this case the sourcesth. there are some ways they can be compromised. most of the material we are dealings called finished intelligence. not real reporting from a particular source. analysis that drew on that reporting. a lot of it is asuch political and diplomatic in a direct intelligence sense. y of the challenges the ukrainian military is facing, the subject of a lot of the material has not been a secret. the press has been reporting on that for quite some time. what is damaging for it to be seen as something to be discussed in the u.s. government , which will hurt the ability of the u.s. government. >> i get that. what the ambassador to, we have intelligence on afghanistan. now we are underestimating the counteroffensive in ukraine. this is a repeating pattern. it is quite extensive. allies can look at that and say why did you make that decision? >> the proof will be in

now with kurt volker was a former us ambassador to nato and was a key witness in president trump. impeachment trial is focused joining us from washington d. c. thank you so much for speaking to tell me 1st what he thought of what the president, the former president just said now well, and no surprise. we knew that this is the position that he's going to take, and that there is a narrative there, which is that the democrats are weapon ising, the justice system against president trump. so that's the line that he's going to be taking. and then at the same time, the democrats will be taking the line that look, nobody is above the law, even a former president, if it committed a crime, has to be prosecuted. so there's really nothing new in this. what i worry about, as i look at this from a foreign policy perspective, is we have countries around the world where people are prosecuting their predecessors. they are seeking to investigate their political opponents. and they'll be seizing on this as a example. when a justification they see they do this in the united states. so we can do this here . yeah.

technical miscalculations strain, the former special representative of the state department for ukraine kurt volkers possible, this can give some clues regarding the sources of our information, lead to the fact that what people stop cooperating with us, but in order to encourage reflection, the information is more than enough. and now the washington post is writing that in reality it is the united states that strongly doubts the capabilities of the armed forces. according to us intelligence estimates, ukraine's problem with the concentration of troops of ammunition and equipment can lead to the fact that its armed forces significantly fall short of kiev's original goals in relation to the expected counteroffensive , that is, journalists are sure. critics of the military scenario and supporters of the negotiation process of the conditional peace party. what a in the us is trying not to show arguments will increase. the hawks, on the other hand, nestled in their nest like documents thrown in. the last of which, dating back to early march, has sowed chaos and paranoia among the washington national sec

on the air of the telethon, the special representative of the us state department for ukraine, kurt volkercording to him, this will be the first a significant step towards the return of the peninsula. without the use of military force, it is now necessary to isolate crimea from russia, this can be done by cutting off the land lines of communication leading to crimea, for example, by striking the crimean bridge again, it is possible to disable the military base in sevastopol, these steps make it extremely difficult to use crimea as a military platform and isolate it from russian logistical support. i think that it is quite possible to achieve this, ukraine can earn it now, and the work on full control of crimea will take place in some time, a decisive approach may lead to a stalemate on the battlefield, such an opinion was voiced by the head of the munich conference, christoph vojska, in an interview with a german publication . according to holzgen , the russian dictator putin misjudged the aspects of the war, but remains determined and can win the war of attrition. well, the leaders of the

let's cross live to washington, and speak now to kurt volker, the former us special representative tod to have you on. let's start in terms of the absolute basics, how could a 21—year—old have access to such influential material, do you think?— do you think? well, that is a great auestion do you think? well, that is a great question and _ do you think? well, that is a great question and it _ do you think? well, that is a great question and it is _ do you think? well, that is a great question and it is something - do you think? well, that is a great question and it is something the i question and it is something the pentagon is now investigating. he clearly could have been part of intelligence unit of some kind, where they had passwords to get into computer systems to access information. with that, presumably could have gotten there but he was able to print it, able to photograph it and distribute it. it is a violation of rules, but that means there are procedures not in place that should be.— there are procedures not in place that should be. , . ., ., that should be. they have had eno

ambassador to nato kurt volker also served as a special envoy in 2017. after crime he is with us.ut how negotiations might go. i started the segment by saying president biden is demanding the russians release gershkovich but does the u.s. have any leverage here? >> not at all. there is no expectation they will release him either. they clearly picked him up on purpose. they look to grab bargaining chips in the relationship with the united states. they did this with the basketball player rudy griner about a year ago. they're holding hostage as well this clearly intentional on russia's part russia's not doing wellin the war on ukraine the u.s. and others are continuing to support ukraine and ukraine is actually recovered. they are looking for any kind of means of pressure on the biden administration they can create. jon: and brittney griner was released in exchange for victor boot notorious arms dealer who is responsible for the deaths probably tens of thousands of people, there was criticism it was going to lead to more of these kinds of kidnappings or illegal detentions. do you thi

miscalculations are straining, the former special representative of the state department for ukraine , kurt volkerossible ; over and above. and now the washington post writes that in reality it is the united states that strongly doubts the capabilities of the armed forces. according to us intelligence estimates, the problem of ukraine is the concentration of troops, ammunition and equipment may lead to the fact that its armed forces. the initial goals of kiev regarding the expected counter-offensive will not be significantly justified, that is, journalists are sure of the critics of the military scenario and supporters of the negotiation process of the conditional peace party that while the united states is trying not to show itself, there will be more arguments. and the hawks, on the contrary , have thrown documents into their nest, as if they had thrown a cat, the latest of which date from the beginning of march, sowed chaos and paranoia among the washington national security apparatus in anticipation of a critical at the time of the war in ukraine , officials said their efforts to find the sour