right now there is a proposal to take off be kurtins warbler, and the california condor has been recovered. the congressman makes a great point, the esa did not remove the ddt from the ecosystem that caused eagle report -- eagle recovery. a tripping cause-and-effect to the regulation as -- attributing con -- cause to regulation as opposed to other rules is tricky. host: let's go to william, in connecticut. the morning. -- good morning. the waygandhi once said a society is first judged by how they treat their animals, who are lesser than us. i was in montana, and i had never seen such cowardice from hunters. they are flying around in airplanes, spotting elk, treeing a tv's and dogs to lions, or or mountain they are having a dog follow a , and with radios, to come and shoot them. why don't they grow up and be men. if they want to shoot something, why don't they become navy seals or real men, not ambush people. michael doyle, about how hunting is changed. guest: the caller made a point about the ethical concerns that play into hunting. if you look at the comments to the park service's rules,