kurtis left at the beginning of this year.ve and had become disillusioned with the church. how much money was passing hands from young people to pastor tobi? it can vary. i mean, there's some sums that he'll ridicule, to make you feel like, yeah, you're small, you can't really help me. like if you've come to him with 2k, 3k, he'll ridicule you. kurtis says he witnessed large sums of cash being handed over by pastors at monthly meetings. set the scene for me, what's it look like? you walk into a room, you see 14—15 people with bags of money and they're just... some cash machines running. they‘ re just. . . what happens with the money, where does it go? from there, i don't know exactly where it goes, but it goes. quickly. fundraising targets were rising. what amount does this work need monthly? and i've put that we need £1 million monthly. £1 million. it just went crazy, everyone is running around. why was it so crazy? because everyone wanted to hit the target and you already know what the people go through to try and hit the ta

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