ray kurzweil's view of ever accelerating change led by moors law. i think there's some skepticism there but i am actually skeptical about a lot of kurzweil's views but i think the potential forever accelerating growth is there. one of the people that we interview in our book would i think -- i could be mangling his name -- he would dismiss any concern that china will displace us because if china does come up with new inventions, his analytical framework says we will adopt them much more quickly. he talks about the role of venturism consumers in producing growth. that you shouldn't just think of the lone heroic entrepreneur, steve jobs, as being the promoter of growth. it's the fact that there's so many fools out here who are willing to try anything steve jobs puts out and try to make something useful out of it. that, in fact, make us is faster growing country and from that point of view any innovation that a comes from china is not a threat but an opportunity. >> yeah, just a couple of -- to re-enforce a couple of those points. yeah if there's a mod