, and kutko, these three were the most active of all, they interfered in the investigation, right, yesre was money, yes. and the main thing is the motive, and the main thing is the motive, the motive is always the main thing, and he told me the whole story, immediately after the hijacking, two days later, yeah, he described in detail how he stole a land cruiser, yes, yes, thoroughly, and described these guys in detail, so, well, i called him 2 weeks later, supposedly in order... to find out some garbage declaration of cargo, he understands this, he has security the company, not the cargo, is accompanying, in fact, i wanted to clarify the details of this scam, this gopstop, they clarified what it was, he came at me like a child, he said, forget everything that i told you, there was nothing like that with me, that's it, that means he refused, but he refused, he refused completely, yeah, and you think that he himself conducted the investigation, i not... i think i know for sure, based on his words, no, on a different basis, but i can’t say anything more, something is not very, very thick,