the list examples of the environmental impact of full faith was saying during the iraq invasion of kuwait in nine hundred ninety one and the deliberate igniting of the oil will sink you right by saddam hussein's troops but also spilling a vast amounts of oil in fact tens of millions of barrels of oil into the patient gulf region and this had it terrible effect on the marine farm and on bird life in the area by six migratory and night if birds. once was in that is it had his fun and they have it and it is it is not just a collection of millions of paddock was of sand it is that is an ecosystem and a poor vast amounts of oil into a consistent that is terribly destructive for. all's fair in love and war as they say and that's why. aircraft will hit chemical industries will sink tankers they'll hit nuclear power plants they'll hit anything that might bring a society or city you are fighting it to its knees as quickly as possible with tremendous amounts than likely of environmental damage such deliberate targeting of the environment during the vietnam war prompted the addition of article fifty

those who question whether he is right to take defense companies to kuwait -- kuwait was a country where 20 years ago we risk the lives of our personnel to free that country. it seems to me an odd argument that kuwait should not have the means of its own defense. in terms of the no-fly zone, of course, we must comply with international law, but we need to insure we do the planning and preparation now. no one is sure what qaddafi will do to his own people. he takes action, we need to put a no-fly zone in quickly. >> the prime minister is right to place the bravery of u.k. forces and staff in light. given these companies have had adequate evacuation plans in place or the only to learn a elation for safeguarding? correction makes an extremely good a point. this is a conversation i think we should be having now with those oil companies. they do have evacuation and transport arrangements. it is important to try to get our people lot of working with them and make sure they're playing their part in delivering that. i am sure there are lessons about more what they should have done about rather t

kuwait, about 2.4 or 2.5. >> those are the three that i would worry about, iran, iraq, and kuwait. >> and they end up in terms of enormous internal strife and the production of all -- in each place decreases by 20-25%. >> that would be a crises that would see oil prices at 150, $170. it would bring a major change in our way ofife. and with it recession as always. >> i would bring res? >> it would bring recession. the cost of everything would go up. >> first is how fast the change occurs. if you go from 100 to 170 over 10 years, you can probably live with it. in two months, they can't. so that would be the first thing. and secondly, it's a stretch to believe that many nations can pay $170 a barrel and they would just begin to fold under the mozambiques of this world would be unable to function. >> they cannot afford to pay 170 a good for gasoline. >> and they can't afford not to because they need it to moves goods and services and food and medical supplies around the country and they need trucks and cars to do it. >> if there's a reduction in the supply of oil, stlie and demand would t

-- riyad, kuwait, gulf states, tel aviv. >> i think they're glad it turned out peacefully so far. one thing that strikes me about the whole experience, for three weeks or so these people have been in the streets. really you had one bloody day. given the number people down there, it is remarkable that more were not killed. this is our first glimpse of the egyptian people. we don't really know them. i think they have shown remarkable tenacity, smarts, patients. >> encourage. -- and that courage. >> and that courage, yes. we don't know what is going to happen. but this is basically a peaceful coup that bodes well for them, i think. >> you have the army, the secret police. >> the army is behaving more that way then at the turkish army behaved. i think the army could play a very constructive role and will probably play a constructive role in egypt's future. >> it is the less respected institution it because it -- overthrew the it it is the new -- it is the most respected institution because it overthrew the monarchy. it is also a conscript army, an army of the people. i think it was wi

they conducted logistical operations in kuwait. >> we have come together as one big family. we finished the mission. >> that feels good. >> it feels good, especially to be home. >> it was the third deployment for many who are happy to be home now with their families. >> welcome home and good work. >>> a lot of local sports to talk about. >> larry beil is here. >> we are loaded with highlights. a nice night for the warriors and the sharks and the giants getting back to work. how will they handle an off how will they handle an off season of celebration ♪ going to the bank without going to the bank... that's a step forward. with chase quickdeposit on your smartphone, you just snap a picture, hit send and done. chase quickdeposit. take a step forward and ♪ we just keep ons.e jun keepin' on ♪ not sure what has gotten into the warriors, but it has risen dramatically. the result is back to back wins over quality teams like oklahoma city and now new orleans. the 75 championship team and chris paul with a little show and go. they were held to just 11 points. the warriors were down 15

>> guest: i was in kuwait in 2009 teaching at american university in kuwait, and the students did someying trying to find out the impact of the internet on the kuwaiti society, and for the first time in if history we were able to document that more than 80% of the people surveyed said the technology was having an impact on local politics, and they would give explanations. you know, the state can't hide anymore, we can voice our opinions freely, a new era is dawning, etc. that was 2009. again, i'm sitting here as a political scientist saying, okay, show me the money. where's the change in institutionalized power? so i was writing a book called "information without revolution?" and been working on that for the last four years, and lo and behold, you know, tunisia shows that there is going to be significant political change. >> host: now, currently in the middle east besides the shutdown in egypt is there censorship on the internet? >> guest: yes. now, for example, i just got back from abu dhabi. they have about 80% of the population in -- >> host: relatively wealthy country. >> guest: ex

she was sent to kuwait, and she served her term in kuwait, and her term and her unit had ended but her term in theater had not. so she left her unit in kuwait after spending many months of treating the flu symptoms and delivering babies i would imagine and all the things a regular doctors do, noncombat doctors. so when her term is up in her unit, instead of returning home, she hitchhiked to baghdad. she hitched a ride to baghdad and then from there, she started asking around for all the action was and she hitched another ride to look at dia and volunteered to be the surgeon for the second member tree regiment. she went with peter newell and his soldiers to fallujah and she operated a battalion aid station in the northeast corner of fallujah, trying to save lives. nobody tells her story. she did a wonderful job. there is a story about her in my book. along with the 22 infantry there were units from the north carolina national guard, and those units were a platoon of ambulances. and 113 armored ambulances. well, to back up just a bit, dr. richard jaydek was a battalion surgeon of the fir

seas in the arab world are abusing foreign workers report investigated contracts to embassies in kuwait saudi arabia and the arab emirates among other other places and it turns out that foreign workers were subjected to unsanitary living conditions coercive hiring practices and their passports and travel papers were taken from that the office of the inspector general learned that workers in kuwait didn't know that they had access to vacation time so one employee literally worked eight years straight without a single vacation there were other instances at another embassy or workers from different countries receive different levels of pay for doing the exact same work although we know that that happens here in the u.s. too especially between women and men but back to the story the report also found that seventy seven percent of workers claim that they had to pay a recruiting to help find a job the bad part though is that this was more than six months of their current salary so does that sound a little bit like indentured servitude to anyone else you know the worst part here is that when t

fact that this is at an angle, from where it seems like the sound will be going, it will be facing kuwait tower instead of a lot of those who are above where this location is. if it was flat, it would be in trouble. i feel that the sound will travel in a better space. unfortunately, the russian hill neighborhood who meet their once a month at that location, it is a bomber that that happened. the time that they are here is the time at 10:00 p.m.. then you really get in people's hair. i really feel like this is something that is a good for the neighborhood and the city. they have been pushing a citywide event. security is security is securits to be tight. >> public transport is a good environment. >> there's one thing we had at the bottom of the hill. the beastie boys played and it went out on the radio. played. it was supposed to

force soss we could defense the persian gulf and liberate kuwait. my second stop was in alexander rea egypt to meet with president mubarak. and there was consternation throughout the region. the united nations supported it, congress supported it. the egyptians, the syrians, all sent forces as part of our coalition. but president mubarak was right at the outset signed up for overflight rights so we could get our aircraft into the region for access to the suez canal, for our naval vessels and so forth. he ended up sending i believe two divisions of the egyptian army to fight along side americans to liberate kuwait. so he's been a good man. he's been a good friend and ally of the united states and we need to remember that. and it's also important when you get into these circumstances that you try to have an open channel of communications that is private to whoever it is you're dealing with out there. it is very hard for some foreign leader to act on u.s. advice in a visible way. you know, you tell me as the president of the united states that i've got

the army reserve unit conducted logistic support operations in kuwait. >> i think we've come togethers one big family and we finished the mission. >> that feels good. >> it feels good. and especially to be home. >> this was the third deployment for some of the soldiers who say, boy, they're happy to be home. can't blame 'em. those families look really happy, too. >> oh, yes. all their faces. a sad new chapter for boarders book stores. the boomberg business report is coming up next. >> plus the major preparation underway in the sierra for the i >> welcome back, 5:49 this wednesday. look how wet up and down across the state from the low to mid-60s and rain moving into san diego, los angeles and palm springs. mid-50s sacramento, fresno and rain. same thing eureka and big sur. let's head up to the sierra where the heaviest snow will fall from 5:00 this morning so right now until 10:00 this morning. by the time it ends 10:00 this evening, 1 to 2 feet at lake level, 3 to 5 feet of new snow at 7,000 feet and that's going to make kristen happy. >> a lot of skiers and boarders real happy. brin

but i was pigging out at this -- >> jimmy: why were you in kuwait? where i did a uso tour and i was rewarding myself for being so heroic with this curry and the whole thing and i went crazy. got on the plane, we were taxiing and i was like, this is not a good situation. 20 hours, and the clown next to me never was like, hey, you want the aisle seat? i was in the window, so, every 18 minutes, excuse me. wouldn't you, like, two hours in, be like, take the aisle seat so you -- >> jimmy: i would parachute off the plane if i was able to. >> for real. i almost didn't make it home. >> jimmy: you're not what i call a delicate eater. >> no, i'm kind of an extreme eater. >> jimmy: i've seen you eat dozens of sausage links. >> i'm famous for my sausage consumption, as you know. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: you worked in -- what restaurant did you work? >> california pizza kitchen most recently. >> jimmy: oh, yes. >> i was a host. it was a cpk in a very high end neighborhood in l.a. called brentwood. so the people were very accustomed to five-star dining. they would g

bush's father had going into iraq after iraq invaded kuwait and cause them to be removed from kuwait but didn't change the regime there is good evidence that saddam hussein believed that america wouldn't change the regime, that he would survive the and in both the united states might come in. so, there were a combination of things taking place that argued for it and there were -- was a behavior pattern on the part of iraq, misguided as it turned out, and he refused to leave with his family which was offered and urged as war is the failure of diplomacy. >> else you quote in the book. one thing - people will be surprised to read about is that president bush never asked you for your advice on what to the country should go to war against iraq and with of violate one of rumsfeld's rules? >> i don't think so. i think president bush -- i don't know that he asked colin how will or condoleezza rice or the vice president. he was elected by the american people, he had frequent meetings and discuss various aspects of the situation. the work very hard with of the united nations to put pressure on

in other words, that war was not about getting hussein out of kuwait. that war was about destroying the iraqi army, the iraqi armed forces. and occupying iraq went to the sanctioning iraq. negotiations sometimes doesn't exist because we don't want it to. but even when we do negotiate, or are willing to negotiate sometimes, we consistently confuse negotiation with conflict resolution. or to put it a different way, a more generous way, people haven't learned yet in washington what conflict resolution is. that is not sitting down at a table with a gun under the table instead of on top of the table and marketing from strength. it's analyzing the problem that brought the conflict about so that you can do something about that, so that you can eliminate the cause of the conflict. people around the world are catching on as to how this works and it's been used in northern ireland and it's been used throughout eastern europe. it was used in macedonia. it's being used with the turks and our means at the moment. it's been used all over the place, but we, include ba

forces so we could defend saudi arabia in the persian gulf and liberate kuwait. my second stop was in alexandria, egypt, to meet with president mubarak. there was consternation in the region, and many of the arab region signed on with united nations, congress supported it, the egyptians, syrians, all of these folks sent forces as part of the coalition. but president mubarak was right at the outset sign that out -- signed up so that we get our aircraft into the region for access to the suez canal, the naval vessels and so forth. he ended up sending two divisions of the egyptian army to fight alongside americans to liberate kuwait. he has been a good man, good friend and ally of the united states, and we need to remember that. that is also a part when you get into the circumstances -- is also important when we get into the circumstances that you have an open channel of communications that is private to whoever it is you are dealing with out there. it is very hard for some foreign leader to act on u.s. advice in a visible way. you tell the president of the united st

iran had -- iran iq claims kuwait. if this succeeds, it would com -- could become a province of iran. it would be a security threat right in the middle of the gulf. >> doesn't it strike you as it almost seems there is some sort of power struggle within the r body, within the palace, so to speak, o what is going on? >> in all of these areas, and natural awakening. but in some, the only tee b gs in egypt and tunisia, the alive n oouys. >> of thraeren get away with deficits and the states can't. >> we are broke. we can't negotiate with something we do not have the abilitve >> gov. scott walker of wisconsin. this is madison, wiscoin. wisconsin. likell of our ates iha a red ink problem and the new republican government introduced the bill that would cut public union bargaining rights and benefits, including 90,000 statewide teachers' unions. in 1936, the american federation of state, county, nvib employees was founded in wisconsin and in 1959 the state passed a comprehensive collective bargaining law. what is going on? >>th

that is equivalent to a little more than kuwait or the uae and a little less than iran. by the end of the year with exports well over 2 million barrels a day, that is the main foreign exchange earner. the non-oil economy is growing at a rate of about 8%. the problem is that -- thus, over time, that will begin to deal with the unemployment problem. right now, we have 18% unemployment. it is very high and has a security dimension as well. next to unemployment, there is a higher level of underemployment, particularly of young men. that is worrisome to us. it is one of the targets of the many programs we have done through programs. in terms of the orioles, as i said, the iraqis have had success with the international oil companies in increasing up to 10% of the output of these fields. this could go up as high -- excuse me -- as 6 million barrels up to 8 million barrels a day, some people say higher, putting it in the range of saudi arabia. there are major, major breaks on such developments. first is the infrastructure. it will be slowed down in terms of continuing to export

a conflict triggered by iraq's invasion of kuwait on this date in 1991 allied forces launched the ground operation that would lead to a cease-fire just 100 hours later. >>> and this evening the president and first lady will host music legends at the white house for a concert celebrating black history month and the legacy of motown records. >>> all day long stay on the latest developments in those stories and others as they break on msnbc. tonight be sure to watch brian williams with ""nbc nightly news." ." >>> a look at what's coming up on the "today" show. find out what's next for libya as leader moammar gadhafi vows to stamp out an uprising of anti-government demonstrators closing in on the capital. today brings you a live report with the latest on lindsay lohan and her fight to stay out of jail. >>> and now keep it on this channel for continuing local news, weather, sports and more. i'm lynn berry. thanks for watching "early today," just your first stop of the day, today, on your nbc station. have a good one. heart disease kills one woman every minute. we can chae the statistic by cho

in kuwait, police fired tear gas at roughly 300 arabs demanding citizenship. in bahrain, protesters seem to have won a partial reprieve, at least for now. allen pizzey is there with the latest. >> reporter: the day began with a standoff. riot police on one side of the raiser wire, several thousand chanting protesters on the other. bahrain's leaders had already withdrawn army tanks and troops under pressure from western leaders following a violent crackdown on thursday but the demonstrators weren't impressed. every police request for them to leave was met with chants of, "we are peaceful." then, without warning, the riot police beat a hasty retreat. the crowd surged forward, a cheering placard waving river of people took back pearl square. even they could hardly believe it. >> the victory is about democracy. we want to be no less than what democratic people in the west, the democracy they enjoy. >> reporter: there is no indication their demands will be met, but today they were enjoying the moment. but for the protesters this is the victory for which all the blo

reporter: as the war escalated the violent insurgency, ied casualties and we all remember the soldier in kuwait tried to tell rumsfeld that the armer was so bad on his vehicles, the troops were forced to use trash metal to try to do it themselves. >> we do not have proper armament vehicles. >> as you know, you go to war with the army you have and not the army you might want. >> reporter: insensitive is the word used. >> oh, by some journalists. was it sensitive, no. go back and read the whole thing. i cared deeply about the troops and the answer reflects it. >> when i was asked if i had confidence in rumsfeld, i said i did not. >> reporter: but from mccain to lindsey graham, he was being challenged. >> what do you say to those calling for your resignation. >> in baseball it's three strikes, you're out. what is it for the secretary of defense? >> reporter: just before the election of 2006, his friend of 38 years, vice president dick cheney called to make it clear the president had decided it was over. did it feel like being fired? >> no, it was the right thing. and i told the president that the

to make the important decision of giving a speech to the arab summit after saddam hussein invaded kuwait. and he said that this was against all arab principles. and by doing that mubarak opened up the possibility of the big international coalition that eventually pushed iraq out of kuwait. and that has been the key. we had a lot to discuss with mubarak all along but our own strategic interests have come first and not the issue of a change is necessary in egypt. >> rose: not much talk about governance. >> we might talk with them about it, but we don't put the real screws on that issue. >> rose: israel. how are the israelis reacting at the highest level of the government? >> the israelis are very nervous about this. >> rose: because? >> they wanted mubarak to stay as president until he was 120. because for them there is little confidence that the successor to mubarak will keep the basic agreement between israel and egypt. i think they're wrong about that but they have not much confidence in what they have wrought with egypt. since the very early days of sadat's visit to jerusalem, the isra

iran had -- iran claimed it just as iraq claims kuwait. if this succeeds, it would come -- could become a province of iran. it would be a tremendous security threat right in the middle of the gulf. >> doesn't it strike you as schizophrenic? it almost seems there is some sort of power struggle within the ruling body, within the palace, so to speak, of what is going on? >> in all of these areas, and natural awakening. but some, the only alternative to bad guys -- in egypt and tunisia, the alternative can be good guys. >> of the federal government can get away with deficits and the states can't. >> we are broke. we can't negotiate with something we do not have the ability to give on. >> gov. scott walker of wisconsin. this is madison, wiscoin. wisconsin. like all of our states it has a red ink problem and the new republican government introduced the bill that would cut public union bargaining rights and benefits, including 90,000 statewide teachers' unions. in 1936, the american federation of state, county, an invisible employees was founded

concerns are rising in other gulf nations, including saudi arabia and kuwait that the protests may inflame their own minority shia populations or that shia-ruled iran could interfere in the affairs of arab states in turmoil. >>> japan's economy trade and industry minister banri kaieda. he will closely monitor the impact of anti-government demonstrations on oil production in the middle east. he expressed concern saying crude oil prices are rising because of the unrest. >> translator: i think we won't be able to avoid a democratization of the middle east. it's important that the situation stabilizes to ensure a steady supply of oil. >>> a volcano in southwestern japan has shown renewed activity following four days of relative calm. mt. shinmoe has been making headlines every since it blasted its way back into the news last month. the friday evening explosion was accompanied by volcanic earthquakes. the volcano is located in the kirishima mountain range. they have warned of potential property damage. the blast and smoke climbing as high as 3,000 meters while rock and ash were carried up to a

. >> question about our forces in kuwait. they are offering logistical support in iraq and afghanistan. do you anticipate any enhanced force presence in kuwait to ensure in case there is an emergency in iraq either iranian aggression or some other form where security is in iraq? >> positioning of forces in kuwait really falls in the domain of the central command commander, general mass and the commander she has 4 board on the ground, general west. i would not want to speculate that we would increase the amount of forces. that is not part of the plan. as we look ahead here. >> thank you very much. >> ambassador jeffrey, general austin, thank you. all the people working with you during this transitional period as we climb a out of a whole that we dug eight years ago in the view of many people including myself having come from an enormous strategic blunder. we were worried and were saying so at the time that this endeavor would harm the country's economy, that it would blow the top off of the price of oil. i recall congress has

kuwait's rulers today tried to buy off their opponents giving each citizen $3,500 and free food for a year. earlier bahrain gave its citizens about $2,700 each to avoid protests. meanwhile, in egypt, everyone's asking, where is hosni mubarak? very few tourists in the red sea resort of sharm el sheikh, though, according to local officials, there's one special visitor, the former president, believed to be staying in his palace here with his family. it's believed the new government promised not to prosecute mubarak or seize his assets, rumored to be in the billions of dollars. it isn't clear how long he'll stay or, if he does go, where he'll go. martin fletcher, sharm el sheikh, egypt. >> for more now on the revolution in egypt and more, we turn to a specialist on democratic reform in the middle east and director of research at the brookings institution's doha center. he joins us from cairo. does the military have a narrow window to follow through with the promises of reforms that hold elections before egyptians grow disenchanted again? >> yes. the military can't wait too long here. the

an eight-year war, it was a threat to kuwait. the turks have interest in the north including the pkk presence there. other countries also. the iranian influence, i would say, is that of an important neighbor. it has probably the highest level of trade of any given country followed by turkey. there are a great many theological links between the shia center in najaf and many of the people who are now in the iraqi government, not just shia arabs but kurds and others found refuge in iran during the saddam regime. what concerns us is, first of all, the general role of iran in the middle east. we think that iran is attempting to expand its influence and expand it in illegitimate ways through violence, through supportive groups and such. we're concerned that will happen. our spread in iraq as well. but we do believe the iraqi leaders including prime minister maliki and others are well aware of threats to their sovereignty, well aware of threats coming in various directions and they can be counted upon to do the right thing. >> let me as

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there are violent protest in kuwait. they have agreed to accept american missile defense systems that targets a specific threats from iran. >> its eastern it all together you have a from israel into the gulf states of much more robust capability to count heconquer threats. >> isabel: the control hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean. the >> it is shipping right through north africa to the suez canal. the kron 4 news will be right back, with more news, weather, and traffic in just a moment. live you at the embarcadero. some folk >>bryan: possibly freezing right now. low 40's in the north bay. 41 percent precipitation. increasing fog. slippery roads. temperatures are getting below freezing. here is mount tam from today. here is the snow. still out there. clearing skies tonight. not too bad. it was in the '50s. before midnight tonight look for partly cloudy conditions. increasing clouds. a weather system that is rolling down the coast and create a slight chance for rain. heaviest rain we're seeing with light rain. heavy p

a right across the border in saudi or in the eastern provinces of saudi arabia and that involves kuwait as well and even some in southern iraq here's the important thing here shiites have been oppressed by sunny's for fourteen hundred years the first time they have been free is in iraq to be able to make their own decisions the problem is is follows that iran the iranian government certainly not the iranian people are deeply involved in provoking problems all over the the muslim world the iranians the through what part of a lot of people believe is their age and this guy they call old baradei who was the iranian who was the i.a.e.a. nuclear was. only ron who basically kept giving iran a free prayer pal not everybody agrees with that maybe not everyone agrees exactly that's a minority as i fundamentally agrees with and security and minority a lot of excuse me excuse me there's very good reason to believe this here is the problem the iranians at first did not cover the marvelous there menstruations in egypt for the first three days until he started to speak and talk in terms of the muslim

>> let's put it this way. 20 years ago when iraq invaded kuwait, most saudis did not knoabouit for three days. because the saudi media sat on it. al jazeera comes along in '96 and changes everything. suddenly you have a channel that is seen across the region reporting in a relatively unfettered way. fast forward to today. you have almost 500 satellite channels. al jazeera played a key role here. there are plenty of other satellite channels including many private channels based in egypt that were very important in this. >> brown: on the ground, how does it play out, the mix of the social media, the internet, television. >> warner: i think what television today was amplify it. for the non-facebook generation. i'll give you one example at least. retired egyptian diplomat said to me, this was... now go back ten days. after mubarak gave his speech where he said he would not run again and his son wouldn't run again. it was a moving speech. a lot of egyptians were kind of, he said, feeling warmly towards mubarak and that he had done the right thing. tuesday is the day that whoever it was sent i

it's kuwait, which is the staging area for operations in iraq. it's qatar, where the headquarters for u.s. military operations throughout the middle east is located. along with an airbase used by bombers flying strikes in afghanistan. all part of a deal that's been in effect for 60 years. the u.s. provides the shield behind which the gulf states pump oil. >> the one thing that the u.s. and its allies cannot tolerate in this part of the world would be interruption of oil shipments from the region. >> reporter: that means preventing iran ever making good on its threat to close the strait of hormuz, through which a third of the world's oil shipments move, and it means keeping al qaeda from ever realizing their dream of taking back the holy sites of saudi arabia. >> destabilization is their game plan. it weakens the ability of the united states to maintain itself in the area and prosecute efforts against al qaeda. >> reporter: katie, almost nothing could do more damage to american interests than chaos in the persian gulf. >> couric: david martin at t