they're i think set to make about $1 billion in commission if they retrieve a lot of the money the kuwaities are looking for. and i look at one of the staffers that madeline albright has, wendy sherman, and she was a social worker, trained social workers, became a campaign person for someone on capitol hill, next thing you know she is c.e.o. of fannie mae in i think it was 97, and she also negotiated with the koreans on nuclear weapons and, i mean, it just goes on and on. are these people part of the shadow elite in the sense? maybe you didn't investigate, but is that kind of the general, where you're? guest: first of all, shadow elite is about the new system of power and influence, and the new model of the power broker that's developed in the past several decades. it's not just about the military sphere, it's equally about the medical arena or the economic arena. what i'm charting is the mode yuss op randi for the new power broker. and this power broker, as you describe, i mean, the pro file that you describe -- i can't speak to the individuals that you're talking about, but the profiles of