those two mentors really -- he becomes the embodiment of the pan-african revolution and becomes kwame toure >> how did stokely or kwame, this brother, this individual view the notion of democracy in america? >> oh, gosh. he becomes a vibrant critic of american democracy. he fights for a vision of radical democracy where black sharele croppers are going to lead the country politically. by the time he's kwame he comes to reject the idea of american democracy and feels it was nothing more than hypocrisy. >> what to your mind -- and there is a long list. we could do a show on this. you could teach us seminars. i'm sure you do at tufts but what are the most misunderstood things all these years later about stokely carmichael? >> one, he wasn't an organizer, an activist. he was just an angry young man. the prophet of black rage. two, that he's somehow anti-white. stoengly has huge multi racial, interracial relationships. against institutional racism, never against white people. finally his call for black power somehow disrupted the civil rights movement. it didn't disrupt the movement. it stroke t