chancellor kwasi kwarteng . hello, kwasi, we kwasi kwarteng. progressively getting poorer and poorer as a nation. that's right. so the way, the way to get out of this, and that was what i tried to do and liz truss tried to do is you've got to focus on growth. >> that's the exam question that we have answer . and the way we have to answer. and the way that you growth, lots of that you get growth, lots of people different ideas, but people have different ideas, but principally a conservative approach to getting growth is to reduce so that people, reduce taxes. so that people, ordinary people and businesses can spend more of their own money to invest and grow the economy. >> so the theory is, is that you cut taxes and that then pumps more money exactly right into the economy. exactly right. >> and then people, you know, it's not government that are creating wealth, it's individuals, businessmen , individuals, businessmen, companies that create wealth . companies that create wealth. it's the private sector that creates wealth , that the public crea

now to some now we're going to get some reaction kwasi kwartengs reaction to kwasi kwartengs interviewerested in what he had to uh, what did you make of to say. uh, what did you make of his interview with camilla this morning? >> i think, um, mr kwarteng has said stepping down and as said he's stepping down and as he skips off to the horizon with his fat mps pension , are his big fat mps pension, are perfectly able to pay his mortgage, leaves in his wake. mortgage, he leaves in his wake. tens thousands of tens of thousands of self—employed who self—employed people who are struggling to pay their mortgages huge mortgages because of the huge increase . liz, we're back up at increase. liz, we're back up at 5. lot of 5. there's a lot of self—employed in this self—employed people in this country get the country who couldn't get the mortgage they've mortgage that they've got if they fulfil the they tried to fulfil the criteria now exists , and criteria that now exists, and it's wrong. it's it's just plain wrong. it's shocking he's leaving families it's just plain wrong. it's shocare] he's le

kwasi spelthorne, joins me now. kwasi lovely to see you this morning. so why are you standing down? 14 years it's quite a long time and it's probably time for to move on and i think that happens in lots of people's lives. i mean, it doesn't show that much confidence in the tories, does it? >> it's a personal decision. and actually many years ago i remember writing a book where i thought we should have time limits for mps because i think people is not that people the danger is not that they too soon, but people they leave too soon, but people stay bit too long. stay on a bit too long. >> it the case that the >> was it the case that the reaction to the mini—budget and everything subsequently everything that subsequently happened bruising? not happened was so bruising? not really. it had impact really. i mean, it had an impact because you wouldn't because last year you wouldn't because last year you wouldn't be that you were going to be saying that you were going to stand down this well, i've been thinking it a time. >> $- time. >> you? how long? and there >> have you? how long? and th

complete disaster complete and utter disaster along kwasi kwarteng, who's along with kwasi kwarteng,ger standing for parliament why don't you parliament again. why don't you guys coalesce behind the guys just coalesce behind the prime minister >> well, i am supporting the prime minister. i want him to win. and i, of course, am very against these plots against him. what's the point of actually, dear old liz truss, everyone's going say , look, are you going to say, look, why are you having this little party within a party which people are just going to say, for heaven's sake, matthew, in? because i actually think it's impressive that both liz truss and theresa may have remained in the front line of british politics, are arguing for the things that they believe in. when other former leaders and one in particular, went off to advise dictators and get a lot of money for it. actually, isn't it a good thing? which one was that? people who remain in politics when they've served because they bring some experience acas and the opportunity people opportunity to bring people together, was liz to

he's still sort of kwasi there. he's still sort of kwasi kwarteng shadow gb news. say to people, why? and they say, well, because he's he's got a personality , i.e. rishi sunak personality, i.e. rishi sunak hasn't. and we want a prime minister with personality . minister with personality. >> well, i think um, i, i'd slightly sort of take that on to say that actually he's got more of a personality than anyone. it seems in the conservative party. so boris johnson will always be the biggest personality. i think, the room. but i think think, in the room. but i think it be, uh, too bad an it wouldn't be, uh, too bad an idea the party and idea perhaps the party and strategists number try strategists in number 10 to try and get boris involved in some way to make sure that actually, when to the public when you're going to the public at general election, people at the general election, people can united can see that it is a united conservative party, that actually that people actually the values that people voted for, charlie , because he's voted for, charlie, because he's

was that kwasi kwasi kwarteng's fault because kwasi kwasi kwarteng's fault becwell, should she >> wellobably checks his memos before they you know what i mean? >> it did feel a little bit like she was being scapegoated. it felt know, she felt as though, you know, she she i mean, she should announce, i mean, javier milei managed it, javier milei managed to do it, you said, this is what you know, he said, this is what i'm going to do when i get in. >> public sector i'm going to do when i get in. >> are public sector i'm going to do when i get in. >> are the public sector i'm going to do when i get in. >> are the key3ublic sector i'm going to do when i get in. >> are the key thing. sector i'm going to do when i get in. >> are the key thing. there's cuts are the key thing. there's so much waste. and for all that we're need open we're told, oh, we need open borders bring workers borders to bring in workers because sector because the private sector doesn't have enough workers. we've workers the we've got those workers in the country, they're working in the pubuc country, they're working in t

kwasi urged to contact police. the next general election. announcing his decision on social media earlier this morning, he said that it had been an honour to serve his constituents since 2010. mr kwarteng served forjust 38 days kwarteng served for just 38 days as chancellor in 2022 under former prime minister liz truss . former prime minister liz truss. and this morning, we've learned that the former irish prime minister irish premier, rather john bruton , has died at the age john bruton, has died at the age of 76 following a long illness . of 76 following a long illness. bruton served as taoiseach from 1994 to 1997. his family says he died peacefully at a hospital in dubun died peacefully at a hospital in dublin earlier this morning, adding that he'll be missed greatly . and for the latest greatly. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com family. it's . for news. com family. it's. for stunning gold and silver coins. >> you'll always

and i talked earlier about the quangos , kwasi and the about the quangos, kwasi and the judiciary andre being taken out of the hands of politicians. i think that's wrong. but it's also wrong that members of parliament intimidated parliament should be intimidated . and, you know, it's very the police need to step up. they're very wrong. >> now, when you ask british conservatives in a senior position who they want to win, the us president election, they never give an answer . the us president election, they never give an answer. but i almost half of the leading almost think half of the leading conservatives would joe conservatives would rather joe biden got back than donald trump. how do feel about trump. how do you feel about donald well i feel that donald trump? well i feel that joe biden needs to be kicked out of the white house >> yeah, i think that is vital for future of the west. and for the future of the west. and ihave for the future of the west. and i have worked in the cabinet under both the trump presidency as trade secretary and the biden secretary, as for biden, as foreign,

the former chancellor — kwasi kwarteng — is standing down as an mp at the next election.22 — after being sacked by liz truss following their much—criticised mini—budget. more than 80 current mps have already said they will leave parliament at the next election. eight million people on means—tested benefits are now receiving their final cost—of—living payment, to help with high prices and bills. the 299 pound payment will go directly into bank accounts of those eligible, before the 22nd of february, without the need to claim. no further payments of this kind are scheduled, and charities are urging the government to consider more support. you're live with bbc news. the bbc has learned the government is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on nhs patients and plans to send dental teams into schools to actually treat children's c. rt political correspondent has been telling me more of the details he has learned. dentistry in england has become a huge issue for both political parties with lots of concern that i know is working its way to mps and their know is wo

the former chancellor kwasi kwarteng is standing down as an mp at the next election.eks in 2022 after being sacked he served at the treasury for just six weeks in 2022 after being sacked by liz truss following their much criticised mini budget. more than 80 current mps have already said they will leave parliament at the next election. eight million people on means tested benefits are now receiving their final cost of living payment, to help with high prices and bills. the 299 pound payment will go directly into bank accounts of those eligible, before the 22nd of february, without the need to claim. it has emerged that the government is preparing to offer dentists cash incentives to take on nhs patients in england amid a shortage of dental practices. it comes as hundreds of people have been queuing for the second day in a row to try to register at a new nhs dental practice in bristol. yesterday the police were called in to manage the crowds. tonight bbc news has seen details of government plans to make nhs dentistry in england more widely available. from bristol, danjo

the former chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, is standing down as an mp at the next election.ked by liz truss following their much—criticised mini budget. more than 80 current mps have already said they will leave parliament at the next election. the dentists' union says a queue of hundreds of people trying to access a new nhs practice is a "perfect snippet" of the situation nationwide. police had to be called to manage the crowds after the st paul's dental practice opened for the first time in bristol yesterday. you're live with bbc news. let's look at the middle east now. the us secretary of state antony blinken is in cairo as part of his latest push for a gaza ceasefire. this is his fifth visit to the middle east, which began in saudi arabia, where he held talks with the saudi crown prince, mohammed bin salman. they discussed efforts to achieve an lasting end to the conflict. meanwhile, the israeli defence minister, yoav gallant, has warned hamas fighters who are hiding in rafah, that they would meet their end there. hundreds of thousands of palestinians have fled to the so

the former chancellor kwasi kwarteng is standing down as an mp at the next election.2022, after being sacked by liz truss following their much—criticised mini—budget. more than 80 current mps have already said they will leave parliament at the next election. people in bristol have been queuing to sign up with a new nhs dentist practice for a second day. the police had to intervene yesterday to control the crowd of those wanting to register. the dentists' union says it's a "perfect snippet" of the situation nationwide. just a couple of the stories making headlines here in the uk. you're live with bbc news. it's one year on from turkey's deadliest earthquake that claimed more than 53,000 lives. at four in the morning, the time the earthrthquake hit, survivors held a pre—dawn vigil, in the remains of antakya city. it was punctuated by outbursts of anger that the turkish government has done too little to rehouse the hundreds of thousands still living in tents — an accusation which president erdogan denies. well, our correspondent anna foster covered the immediate aftermat

the former chancellor kwasi kwarteng is standing down as an mp at the next election.ed mini—budget. more than 80 current mps have already said they will leave parliament at the next election. 8 million people on means—tested benefits are now receiving their final cost—of—living payment to help with those high prices and bills. the £299 payment will go directly into bank accounts of those eligible before the 22nd of february without the need to claim. no further payments of this kind are scheduled and charities are urging the government to consider more support donald trump is not immune from prosecution for the alleged crimes he committed during his presidency to reverse the 2020 election. in rejecting unanimously the former president's immunity arguments, the appeals court in washington said the public interest in holding a president accountable outweighed the potential negative impacts on the office of the presidency. it's a setback for mr trump and opens the way for the trial to resume in late spring. our north america correspondent nomia iqbal is in washington. th

. >> kwasi chum. >> kwasi chum. >> yeah, cool is kind of. >> yeah, cool beans is kind of. it's my thing. >> this kind banter is why >> this kind of banter is why people tune the show. people just tune into the show. there'll yeah there'll there'll be more. yeah there'll be old words that we'll be some old words that we'll bnng be some old words that we'll brirwe're going to have look at >> we're going to have a look at the pages. the front pages. >> the daily mail. can >> we have the daily mail. can our police sink any lower .7 the our police sink any lower? the telegraph, badenoch accuses post office boss of lying in horizon vow. uh guardian putin accuses or accused of covering tracks over navalny death mirror now make them pay the times schools will get greater power to ban mobiles and the daily star undead as the dodo and those are your front pages . right. we are your front pages. right. we are going to kick off with the daily telegraph who we got that i will carry. >> i'll have it come on charlie, come on charlie. okay. yes, chum. one come on, old chum. one first name

we are not in the liz truss—kwasi kwarteng sort of stage here, at least you would hope not, which isut all the tax cut promises because they don't want to get into that territory. so, i think both are competitive here, but labour are making real progress. you're talking about keir starmer talking to business, and that is exact what he's been doing today at an all—day labour business summit, and actually we can have a listen to what he had to say. all the hard work that's taken us l to this point, it's vindication, i a recognition of that guiding belief, notjust that labour. | could be the party of business, j that labour should be the party of business, that now, also, four years on, i labour is the party of business. siobhan, you were there listening to keir starmer. i was indeed. are businesses all turning up to listen to him because they think he is going to win the election or because you like what you're hearing from him? they're turning up because labour have been engaging with them for quite some time now. this hasn'tjust come out of nowhere. they have been talking to us, to b

kwarteng and liz truss _ october 2022 when kwasi kwarteng and liz truss crash the budget, that was they handled _ the time to pivot. it has been badly handled now and the dividing line that laura — handled now and the dividing line that laura trott is trying to create. _ that laura trott is trying to create, the issue is not no plan versus— create, the issue is not no plan versus the _ create, the issue is not no plan versus the plan, it is the government has their own plan. labour— government has their own plan. labour has _ government has their own plan. labour has to have a plan and offer hope _ labour has to have a plan and offer hope it— labour has to have a plan and offer hope. it goes back to offering hope and offering change and that is what progressive parties have to do. but where progressive parties have to do. where does progressive parties have to do. pm where does he get back to add to this in terms of the green upper? i think where you get back to is the announcement, what is the detail of great _ announcement, what is the detail of great british energy, the detail of th

andrew doyle kwasi.>> you're obsessed with emily. >> you're obsessed with emily. >> i i'm to go and >> i am. i'm going to go and find her tonight. >> um, paul, do you hold your phone above your. >> he was >> not like that. i mean, he was holding it quite some height as well, wasn't don't know well, wasn't he? i don't know what him. i think what was wrong with him. i think he optician. he needed to see an optician. >> anyone going to sleep in >> is anyone going to sleep in that thing? >> just. no, just on the off chance might chance that they might drop their say their phone. let's not say nobody will know. >> will. okay. fair >> someone will. okay. fair enough. look, the enough. well, look, this is the part show where we talk part of the show where we talk through unfiltered through your unfiltered dilemmas. much dilemmas. thank you all so much for writing your for writing in with your personal uh, first personal problems. uh, our first dilemma comes in from dilemma this week comes in from eleanor. was e

the former chancellor kwasi kwarteng is standing down as an mp at the next election.ng sacked by liz truss following their much—criticised mini—budget. more than 80 current mps have already said they will leave parliament at the next election. 80 million people on means tested benefits are receiving their final cost of living payment to help with high prices and builds. the 200 99p payment will go directly into the bank accounts of those eligible before the 22nd of february. —— 8 million people are means tested benefits. the £299 payment. it's one year on — from turkey's deadliest earthquake, that claimed more than 53,000. survivors held a pre—dawn vigil, in the remains of antakya city. it was punctuated by outbursts of anger, that the turkish government has done too little to rehouse the hundreds of thousands, still living in tents — an accusation which president erdogan denies. our reporter sheida kiran has followed the story of turkish woman, and the struggles that she and her community have been through since the aftermath of the earthquake translation: we have se

the former chancellor kwasi kwarteng is standing down as an mp at the next election. union says a queue of hundreds of people trying to access a new nhs practice is a "perfect snippet" of the situation nationwide. after the st paul's dental practice opened for the first time in bristol yesterday. more on all those stories on the website. at least three people have been killed by falling trees after a powerful storm brought flooding and mudslides to suburbs of los angeles. more than a million people have been left without power, and the governor of california has declared a state of emergency in some areas. aruna iyengar has this report. los angeles, america's second largest city, saw a record on sunday of over ten centimetres of rain. there is disruption on the roads, mudslides and flooding. this is the effect of what is being called the pineapple express, an atmospheric stream of moisture stretching across the pacific and it's causing chaos in southern california. in some hilly areas, people have been ordered to evacuate. this home in a suburb of la slid down a hill

. >> kwasi kwarteng says immigration must be a key focus for the government when it comes to having success next election. the former chancellor also told gb news camilla tominey his decision to not stand for re—election as an mp is one he's been considering for a while now. >> think about it for a long time, have you? how long? and there was well, ever since the beginning the parliament. beginning of the parliament. actually, had actually, i had thought. i had thought minister of thought and i was minister of state that point. i had state at that point. i had thought that you know, three terms, three obviously we had more , but 15 is more elections, but 15 years is probably , in this modern probably, in this modern climate, a reasonable amount of time to be an mp. two of the principal things that conservatives should be fighting for a lower taxes and secure borders, stronger immigration and strong land taxes. and if you look at our see an immigration cap for. yes, i mean, there's got to be something it. i mean, yeah, something on it. i mean, yeah, you know, on two of those metrics, frankly

i've got the former premier referee , mark premier league referee, mark kwasi.d morning. it's almost good afternoon to you there. um, afternoon to you down there. um, thanks for joining us. afternoon to you down there. um, thanks forjoining us. so, uh, presumably you'd have been delighted by the blue card that would helped her. uh, in. would have helped her. uh, in. sure. a little bit less abusive behaviour is this behaviour from players. is this a good thing or a bad thing for me, i think it's a it's a load of nonsense. >> i really do. um you know, you're going to get we've you're going to get it's we've got and cards . you're going to get it's we've got and cards. um, i got yellow and red cards. um, i think absolutely spun. i think it's going to it's going to slow the game right down. if you look, if you look at a player that that shows dissent and gets a blue card, he goes off for ten minutes. he then comes back on, uh, then gets another blue card. then is he is. he sent off then he is he is. he sent off for two blue cards. so what's what's the difference? wh

kwasi political fortunes? kwasi kwarteng certainly thinks so . he kwarteng certainly thinks so.amilla tominey this morning on gb news. >> if you want somebody help , >> if you want somebody help, you should reach out to them. yes, that's what you would do. yes. if you were in a difficult spot and you wanted a friend to help you or somebody to help you. probably you. yeah you would probably pick or admit that pick up the phone or admit that he needs. well, there's all of that ego nemesis. there's of that ego nemesis. there's all of that ego nemesis. there's all of that nonsense. not that ego and nonsense. it's not time to more, more, you time simply to more, more, you know, more of the same. no, something to change for us something has to change for us to have a chance of winning . and to have a chance of winning. and if that means swallowing some pride suppressing bit of pride and suppressing a bit of ego reaching out to someone ego and reaching out to someone who's campaigner. yeah, who's approved campaigner. yeah, then do that . then he should do that. >> so should boris enter

he's stepping down as announcing he's stepping down as an mp, i'll be speaking to former chancellor kwasih me. dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now now thousands of pro—palestinian protesters are marching across the country today once again calling for a ceasefire in gaza . they've been ceasefire in gaza. they've been going for nearly four months now across the country in cities like london, manchester and edinburgh . joining like london, manchester and edinburgh .joining me now is like london, manchester and edinburgh . joining me now is our edinburgh. joining me now is our west midlands reporter , jack west midlands reporter, jack carson, who i believe is in birmingham for us, where we've had a lie in at barclays bank branches . jack, what's going on branches. jack, what's going on there ? there? >> yeah . good afternoon to you >> yeah. good afternoon to you dawn. so we've moved just as saltley where a palestinian march is heading towards that barclays. should arrive there barclays. it should arrive there around 2:00. it's not long left where we are here. but of cour

um, but i knew i want something that's a bit hoff kwasi, you like and kwasi, you know, like that.azim, there it so hard. kazim, there it is. so hard. well, no one's building new bungalows. >> nobody exactly . yeah. no, but >> nobody exactly. yeah. no, but i do agree, there's nothing quite your shoes quite like taking your shoes off, through the plush off, walking through the plush carpets, the smell of a showhome . coffee. . we'll have a coffee. >> always a very >> and there's always a very attractive selling. attractive woman selling. >> very glamorous, aren't >> it's very glamorous, aren't they? bought last they? i actually bought the last showhome. around. did showhome. i look around. did you? pouring with rain. you? it was pouring with rain. we used to live on level we used to live on a level crossing crossing crossing and the crossing was down to let the down all the time to let the trains through. it was pouring with rain and there was a show home, and i thought, i'll just go and a look round there go and have a look round there to the rain. and then to get out of the rain.

and how of course, ditched kwasi. do it, you know, i have watched these ads were a ton of these ants have a choice if you lived here, that's exactly right. i mean, i was just trying to watch football on these ads just coming on and on and on. and he was able to do it actually by leaning into the immigration message, the idea on border security that republicans didn't want to do anything and he would actually go in and trying time the border and folks have been listened to trump too much and perhaps trying to vote against things that a lot of folks actually wanted. >> so it's such a good point because remember, he told manu raja last week he said something when republicans blocked this, it made this a lot easier for me and i thought now we'll see if that plays out a number. it seems like it has to your broader point though, if you're joe biden, you're looking at this, you're saying win after win after win and special in ballot initiatives, governor's races, virginia, state house races what's happening with my numbers?

we would all be better off if liz took a leaf out of her former chancellor's book, kwasi kwarteng apologisepologise, admitted fault and made plans to leave parliament. liz truss is not a popular conservative. she's an unpopular libertarian and it's time for her to leave us all in peace. time for her to leave us all in peace . darren, liz truss is a peace. darren, liz truss is a mate of yours. what is she doing? >> look. well, i think first of all, another mate of mine, nigel, actually said whilst he was there that basically she's copied the reform manifesto. so i don't think he was there to endorse liz truss. >> what is she. what is she doing? >> well, look, i think actually liz has been a really important voice on issues like china, for example, you know, as foreign secretary, she was beating the drum saying that we need to be more hawkish on issues like that. so i think i think you're being unkind to suggest unkind. >> has destroyed the free >> she has destroyed the free market cause for a generation . market cause for a generation. >> ian, these are the ideas that you believe in, darren.

you know, i had kwasi kwarteng in last week sitting exactly where stella is .where stella is. and i was asking him to outline some really key economic differences between labour and the conservatives. he struggled. i now think , on green policy, this now think, on green policy, this 28 billion good idea or bad idea is gone . what i'm making, bob, is gone. what i'm making, bob, is gone. what i'm making, bob, is there aren't fundamental differences now between the two parties. >> okay ? i don't for one second >> okay? i don't for one second believe that. and actually , believe that. and actually, frankly, nigel, i don't think that you believe it for one second. no, i do fori start. second. no, i do for i start. okay. before i start by the way, i'm a scout shanklin, i'm at a scout hut in shanklin, in rosie, the in my constituency. rosie, the assistant scout leader here, her husband, alex, was the secretary of kent golf club. and of the west kent golf club. and they regards. they they send their regards. they apparently said that had apparently said that you've had

kwasi regularly, doesn't he? kwasi kwarteng. he's told the kwarteng. spelthorne , um, that people of spelthorne, um, that he's, he's , he's offski. right. he's, he's, he's offski. right. and so these are these are a shocking v—sign to, to their people when everything is going well. oh yes . people when everything is going well. oh yes. i'm going to be chancellor. i'm going to be this, i'm going to be that. hello. what's going on? oh, you don't like me. well, in that case, off. it is case, i'm off. no, it is completely wrong. they should not be allowed to say goodbye . not be allowed to say goodbye. they should sit there and fight for it. yeah. >> i mean, the country needs to be fought for at the moment. we have problems left, right and centre they be centre and they appear to be deciding to but um, deciding to leave. but um, talking of there , calibre talking of mps, there, calibre of the labour mps who won last week's by elections has been called into question. so wellingborough's new 28 year old mp , jen kitchen has limited mp, jen kitchen has limite

kwasi kwarteng, announcing kwarteng, of course.he today he's not standing at the next election. >> i every party >> well, i think every party needs to renew itself. every party needs new people coming forward. heard one great forward. we've heard one great new candidate today speaking here. there'll be many others, mari fraser. that's right . mari fraser. that's right. murray fraser. fantastic speech. really good ideas. we there's more of that coming through. so every party renews itself. and that's what's happening. >> nora forster. thank you. well, lord frost, they're enthused event which could enthused by an event which could have felt funereal but didn't. and that may offer some hope for this party in the future . this party in the future. >> chris. absolutely fascinating stuff. i've been i've been munching on the popcorn all the way through . um, thank you so way through. um, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest from the launch of popular conservatism in popular conservatism there in central yeah, great central lo

she and her colleagues, her close colleagues , kwasi her close colleagues, kwasi kwarteng, one of those to sort of sort things out, and eventually tory mps had to, embarrassingly for them, get rid of her. so the idea that she then says, well, of course it's all a conspiracy . she, i must all a conspiracy. she, i must say, doesn't strike me as being terribly, terribly true or terribly, terribly true or terribly relevant . terribly relevant. >> i think she's absolutely delusional. you know, we all saw what happened. and, you know, she's kind of trying to blame it on the deep state. tell that to everybody who's mortgage basically tripled after her shenanigans. i just think it's absolutely ridiculous . and it's absolutely ridiculous. and it's almost as if i never really know what to get with liz truss, because obviously, she because obviously, at first she was then she was was lib dem, then she was conservative, was conservative, she was a remainer, a, you remainer, then she was a, you know, the know, ardent brexiteer. who the hell that's i'm hell is she? that's what i'm trying out. it tryi

and also so, like, what she and kwasi kwarteng did was just a massive was just such a massive implosionwasn't good. >> but announced the tax cuts before announcing the public spending obviously spending cuts, which obviously obviously in obviously spooked investors in britain. did it completely britain. they did it completely the wrong way round. >> that that's >> the key people that that's the it? yeah the lesson, isn't it? yeah discuss with everybody. discuss it with everybody. actually a great idea if you look at make sure look at it. make sure everybody's board. you everybody's on board. but you need these things not need to look at these things not in like part need to look at these things not in the like part need to look at these things not in the equation. like part need to look at these things not in the equation. don't part need to look at these things not in the equation. don't look rt need to look at these things not in the equation. don't look at of the equation. don't look at one the seesaw without one side of the seesaw without the spend money. the other. don't spend mone

with as to why she was such a failure instead of just taking the bullet like kwarteng the bullet like kwasisome mistakes. >> forgive me . now i'm going to >> forgive me. now i'm going to stand down from parliament. that's what liz should lose the whip ? look, think the whip right? look, i think the prime minister has a difficult decision to make when comes decision to make when it comes to liz truss. she's just causing problems prime minister. problems for the prime minister. we after week week, quite we after week after week, quite frankly, liz truss, if she was given a chance, would have been the prime minister the best prime minister to save your the best prime minister to save youand why you're taxing. >> and that's why you're taxing. that's why in problem that's why you're in the problem . you're albi. party is .you're in albi. your party is about to get obliterated because the be that party the powers that be in that party took her down. now you're stuck with rishi sunak and a party full of lib dems in the skies. and members. >> a lib dem. do >> truss was a lib dem. you do know that?

i don't know, but you've got certainly with kwasi kwarteng. it'll be interesting to see. his views . views. >> well, let's hope so. and i'm also quite intrigued as to why he didn't join his old comrade , he didn't join his old comrade, liz truss, in the popular conservative movement launched this week. he stayed well clear of that and of course, i'd like to find out what he wants to see in the next budget, because we had had jeremy hunt, the chancellor, sort of making out. he was the next nigel lawson. and then days, the and then in recent days, the treasury have been very much trying dampen expectation of trying to dampen expectation of major is that the major cut tax cuts, is that the right approach is the next general election to be general election going to be about economy? or perhaps about the economy? or perhaps michael say it's michael gove will say that it's going to about housing, and going to be about housing, and i'm be him on i'm going to be grilling him on why government keeps on why the government keeps on failing these housing failing to meet these housing

it's worth remembering kwasi remembering her and kwasi kwarteng specifically did kwarteng did specificallythat it wasn't able to be and wasn't able to be checked. and balanced. um, and, you know, she had completely free rein to do what she wanted, and it was a disaster. i don't disagree with the statement that she was making there, but equally, um, i think she's on the campaign trail, but i'm where trail, but i'm not sure where the campaign is heading. yeah. >> fair point. claire. >> fair point. claire. >> well, it's interesting to see that on that she's reflecting back on thatcher. lot of the thatcher. them a lot of the conservatives with a large c as well as a small c seem to think that thatcher is the absolute iconic where they iconic pinnacle of where they ought and i'm not sure ought to be. and i'm not sure that's a definite um or a really positive way or direction to go in, because thatcher did a lot of harm to the country . however, of harm to the country. however, you she was in the you know, she she was in the premiership, she was prime minister for how many days? 48, 48 days. and

i mean, you're going to do is be a government that is credible, not like truss kwasi kwarteng. >> no. know you to be a credible you want to be a credible government. would it be credible? for instance, mr bryant, critical bryant, knowing how critical you have the former us have been of the former us president the past, would president in the past, would it be competent credible be competent and indeed credible ? should trump come to ? should donald trump come to power? starmer is power? that keir starmer is perhaps future prime minister perhaps a future prime minister while donald trump is a future president ? he invites him to the president? he invites him to the uk and then you, presumably as you did 2017, will call for you did in 2017, will call for donald trump to be arrested . donald trump to be arrested. >> look, i'm not a big fan of donald trump, and i make no bones about that. i think there are i don't think that somebody who, um, denies the result of a general election is a good democrat. >> but starmer might have to work with this bloke . work with this bloke. >> um, indeed.