>> kwasi i'm not doing it. >> kwasi i'm not doing it. >> i'm not.nging an up to avoid the issue. the reason why i'm bringing it up is because people who will be watching this will be seeing a completely different way of dealing with this protest from the way that we dealt with the pro—palestine protest. so the pro—palestine protest. so the problem with freedom of expression, martin, is that it has to appeal to everyone and what the right wingers are realising, right now is that they have spent the last few months demonising muslim people, demonising muslim people, concerned about the deaths of muslims. >> same thing when you're saying all the right wingers do the worst thing, you're not talking about the issue, you're not addressing the issue. >> the issue is three young girls were killed and robbed of their lives by a knife crime. it's not about the right. >> so let's address the issue. >> so let's address the issue. >> oh, forgive me or the muslims or anything like that. we've got to focus on it. and in the prime minister's statement, he did say s

>> kwasi i'm not doing it. >> kwasi i'm not doing it. >> i'm not.ging an up to avoid the issue. the reason why i'm bringing it up is because people who will be watching this will be seeing a completely different way of dealing with this protest from the way that we dealt with the pro—palestine protest. so the pro—palestine protest. so the problem with freedom of expression, martin, is that it has to appeal to everyone and what the right wingers are realising, right now is that they have spent the last few months demonising muslim people, demonising muslim people, concerned about the deaths of muslims. >> same thing when you're saying all the right wingers do the worst thing, you're not talking about the issue, you're not addressing the issue. >> the issue is three young girls were killed and robbed of their lives by a knife crime. it's not about the right. >> so let's address the issue. >> so let's address the issue. >> oh, forgive me or the muslims or anything like that. we've got to focus on it. and in the prime minister's statement, he did say so

and as i said earlier , kwasi and as i said earlier, kwasi and as i said earlier, kwasi and as i said lied to people. >> i remember him talking to business people in northern ireland, and he said, if there is a border in the irish sea, you come back and say, actually, actually the dup conference. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so he went, that's what he went and said it. >> so there was no way that he could unpick what theresa negotiated in the time that he had . and that's why we ended up had. and that's why we ended up where we were. but as i said , where we were. but as i said, the original sin in all of this was the 2017 general election, where we didn't have a majority. and for those of us who sat through that parliament, we couldn't get anything done. there was two years of agony. it's funny, there was no way we could get anything through. >> whatever you guys call early general elections, it doesn't seem to work out very well, does it? moving on, moving on. one of the biggest nonsenses pronounced by starmer today was on eu defence. and i've long been very worried about this. i've been wo

so that was the weakness. >> is kwasi right? weakness. >> is kwasi right ? lloyd >> is kwasi right?loyd russell—moyle the mistake was not even to try and make rwanda work because, according to the tory government, as we know dunng tory government, as we know during the campaign , it was during the campaign, it was about the flights about to take off. why not let some flights take off proving to be a failure? if it's a failure and then move on? >> well, the problem with the rwanda scheme is it wasn't actually a scheme on how to become a refugee in the uk. it was a scheme where we bundled people off to rwanda. and if you're if you were, then processed, you stayed in rwanda, you couldn't come back. yeah. and it was also a scheme that the most vulnerable refugees from rwanda that might have got to rwanda via neighbouring countries . so the flights were countries. so the flights were then repatriated back to britain. so we had to have the cost of all these very vulnerable refugees that rwanda would send to us in a, in a, in a for tat kind of arrangement. it was it was bonkers. i think th

you were there , kwasi. >> yeah. you were there, kwasi. you were there all through that period of government, all through that, when we saw, you know, persistent threats. okay. one aspect of it is the channel. it's not the only aspect of it by far. radicalisation in prisons elsewhere, major, major problems , do you think the problems, do you think the organisations we have in place that prevent program etc, are they doing their job properly? so look, i think it's a it's a, it's a, it's a mixed picture, >> i think some of the institutions we have are amazing institutions we have are amazing in terms of the intelligence gathering. i was very struck as a cabinet minister when ukraine, when putin invaded ukraine, our intelligence was second to none at that point. but then there were other institutions of the state that aren't working at that level, and i think that, you know, it's a job of the politicians to make sure that those institutions are better equipped and better managed to do their job. but there are bits do theirjob. but there are b

you were there , kwasi. >> yeah. you were there, kwasi. you were there all through that period of government, all through that, when we saw, you know, persistent threats. okay. one aspect of it is the channel. it's not the only aspect of it by far. radicalisation in prisons elsewhere, major, major problems , do you think the problems, do you think the organisations we have in place that prevent program etc, are they doing their job properly? so look, i think it's a it's a, it's a, it's a mixed picture, >> i think some of the institutions we have are amazing institutions we have are amazing in terms of the intelligence gathering. i was very struck as a cabinet minister when ukraine, when putin invaded ukraine, our intelligence was second to none at that point. but then there were other institutions of the state that aren't working at that level, and i think that, you know, it's a job of the politicians to make sure that those institutions are better equipped and better managed to do their job. but there are bits do theirjob. but there are b

it's about not being able to do what liz truss and kwasi kwarteng did present a budget without it having public ownership of the rail. and that's the end of the newscast. live from london. this is bbc news health workers in gaza begin vaccinating babies against polio , a day before a mass immunisation campaign is due to start. it stays with them all their lives _ a woman and man die from injuries suffered at the notting hill carnival. police open two murder investigations. tickets for the oasis reunion tour are officially sold out , as fans complain about tech trouble and a surge in prices. and the american rapper fatman scoop dies after collapsing on stage during a performance. palestinian health workers in gaza have started vaccinating some babies against polio, a day before a mass immunisation programme is due to begin. palestinian health workers carried out the vaccinations in nasser hospital in khan younis. unicef says the vaccinations will take place for six and a half hours every day until wednesday. israel and hamas have agreed to three localised pauses in fighting to enable the

rachel reeves will use, it's slightly symbolic, it's about not being able to do what liz truss and kwasiet without it having sort of oversight and public ownership of the rail. well done you. right, and that's the end of the newscast live on radio 4 experiment. thanks forjoining us. newscast. newscast from the bbc. live from london, this is bbc news. a woman and man die from injuries suffered at the notting hill carnival. police open two murder investigations. health workers in gaza begin vaccinating babies against polio — a day before a mass immunisation campaign is due to start. translation: i was worried and afraid because this is scary. - this disease makes the children not able to move, eat, or drink, and it stays with them all their life. at the paralympics in paris, five golds for great britain, including two in para—taekwondo. tickets for the oasis reunion tour are officially sold out as fans complain about tech trouble and a surge in prices. and the american rapper fatman scoop dies — after collapsing on stage during a performance. hello i'm lauren taylor. two people who were se

of debt in the nhs, and it's obviously requires a lot of money, i mean, it's an absurd policy, as kwasiy, i think he's clearly just distancing himself from that. but the revelation itself that the prime minister, former prime minister liz truss, was even considering this. now she may deny it, but it remains to be seen. but if that is the case, then it would be, almost unbelievable . i mean, i can't unbelievable. i mean, i can't think of, you know , anything, think of, you know, anything, anything worse or anything in a situation where, you know, you we have the nhs in this country where there are issues. >> do we believe it or not? >> do we believe it or not? >> well, i mean, anthony seldon is somebody who does do his homework. i mean, i, i find , i homework. i mean, i, i find, i mean, i find it so shocking that i mean, there would have been a rebellion. i mean, there would have been i mean, there would have been i mean, there would have been i mean, there would have been a rebellion in parliament, but i mean, there would have been a total uprising if you're not going to pay for cancen

. >> but a burnt out library that just makes it's like, what is it like alexandra kwasi and they're hopinghese manuscripts will be worth a lot in a couple of thousand years time. it doesn't make sense to me. of all the things to lose, there would be any manuscripts left. >> it's a library. it's full of papeh >> there might be some half. >> there might be some half. >> okay. >> okay. >> you know, you're happy enough with, with people going to prison for destroying public property. >> surely i am happy enough for criminals to go to prison. andrew yes, but what doesn't seem to get mentioned? well, come back to this a lot tonight is the legitimate concerns of some people who weren't the 17 that have gone to prison. >> yeah. so there's a, there's a thing here, isn't there. there's there's, there's people who behave illegitimately and criminally and they should face the full brunt of the law, the full force of the law. and, you know, as the phrase goes, but then you've also got people who have do have legitimate concerns. that and the risk is that those legitimate concerns will get overlooked be

maybe this is, first of all, when the nhs was set up after the war, nobody went to kwasi.e was no counselling back then, you know, and so the dentistry, nobody went to the dentist. they had their teeth pulled. they didn't have dentistry like they are now. the problem is, is that is that only only less . so a million people only less. so a million people went to the i. i'm getting my i have a heart scan thing to just see if i'm doing okay. i'm doing amazing. but you know in america it's $99.99. here it's $1,300. cressida. what? >> i thought america was supposed to be more expensive. >> no, it isn't, because there's competition. so when you're going to pay for it, you go to you go to the. they say, you know, oh, you've got must have money. so we're going to charge you 13. >> so really then long term we're looking at private health care aren't we. >> well of course we're looking at because because the truth is when they set up the nhs, people weren't they didn't think it's like, how long is a piece of string? if it's free, give me an entire ball. if i have to pay by the inch,

her chancellor at the time was, of course, kwasi kwarteng, and he spoke to nigel farage on gb news last >> i can categorically state we never talked about reducing cancer treatment . why would i cancer treatment. why would i mean, it would have been absurd politically to have done that . politically to have done that. anyway, earlier on today you said i wasn't involved in any conversations about restricting healthcare. that's true. but that doesn't mean the prime minister and her team didn't discuss this. you're chucking her under the bus? no i'm not. yes you are. yes you are. i'm not doing that . i'm saying i'm not doing that. i'm saying i'm being very careful, i think so i was very careful in my wording. i said very careful. to me it was i said i didn't have any of those conversations, but if those conversations, but if those conversations, but if those conversations took place in other bits of the government, i wasn't privy to them. i wouldn't i didn't know about that. that's what i'm saying. i mean, seldon is a renowned biographer. this is quite a claim, isn't it? yes. i'm surprised

so the government slash kwasi.e treated as a form of extremism under new government plans. home secretary yvette cooper says that there have been a rise in extremism, both online and on our streets , and she'll and on our streets, and she'll review the uk's counter extremism strategy to determine how best to deal with it. well, gb news reporter ray addison brought us this . brought us this. >> well, the home office is calling this new initiative sprint, and it's been described by the home secretary as a strategic reset on how government tackles harmful or hateful activity. now, that could be online, or it could be something that you've overheard in the street. basically, it's anything that promotes violence or undermines democracy. and the home office is very keen to stress that they will be looking at things such as the rise of what they call the far right, and also islamist extremism here in the uk. however, what's really caught the attention of the public is this concept of the public is this concept of the clam

. >> he would always used to say that in the kwasi gold select.yeah i don't remember. the rest of they go for gold. and you know what that was only came out on tv to win a chance to go to the 90. i'm very, very serious about this. the 1988 olympics in seoul. so that was the main prize. and that was the reason it was called going for gold. missing. how about that? love it anyway keely keely hodgkinson she's just the for star me. >> she's she's the star girl for our 22 years of age. yeah. what a star. what? you know i mean i know we're not allowed to say what next when they've just won a gold, but what next. >> well more gold. yeah. it's going to continue and who knows how far she can go. you know, the world is her oyster. >> you were telling us about people trying to replicate the speed that she does. yeah. on a running machine. >> it was. yeah, it was very funny, actually. they tried an event where they had people on a running machine to run at the pace of keely hodgkinson in 800m. obviously it's two laps around the track and people lasted about f

her and kwasi just delivered all of this stuff and there was a lot in there and they they failed to sellevery day to the lectern explaining why when , how lectern explaining why when, how calm in the waters they didn't. so from a pr exercise, it was a disaster from a grow the economy exercise. it would have been superb . perhaps not the tax for superb. perhaps not the tax for the very rich. >> so hang on then you're saying. you're saying there that that basically the, the medicine was the right one, but the doctor was the wrong one. if i can use a. yeah. like that. yeah. >> when we talk about this everyone seems to forget the energy policy. right. that was more socialist than what starmer is offering now. they were going to pay to heat the swimming pools of millionaires. it was it was, it was not. it was only people have swimming. it was an non—means tested energy policy. >> she did want to investigate fracking, though, to be fair, i remember that being on the campaign. >> yes, but in the meantime, she was advocating a policy that even the iea, the institute of economic affairs, which is

forward slash kwasi. lots of conversation going on already. come and join it now.e company on today's show is the former labour party adviser matthew laza, and former conservative special adviser. that was a tongue twister. charlie rowley . but before we charlie rowley. but before we get stuck into today's stories, here's the news with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> darren. thank you. good afternoon. it'sjust >> darren. thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone 2:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. president zelenskyy has for the first time acknowledged that ukraine is conducting a military offensive inside russia's western kursk region. the surprise operation, which began five days ago, has taken russia by surprise and prompted mass evacuations across both sides of the border. russia's defence ministry has said. air defence units destroyed 14 drones and four ballistic missiles over the region this morning. meanwhile, ukraine says it destroyed 53 russian drones during an overnight strike. military analyst sean bell says there are three main reasons for ukraine

delighted to let you know that actually, there has been a crowdfunding appeal @gbnews .com forward slash kwasill ahead though, we answer all of your questions in ask the five. no topic is limits. i wonder you've got in store gb news. welcome back to the saturday five. thank you very much for all of your emails and messages about tonight's topics. speaking of though, it's time for this . of though, it's time for this. yes indeedy, it's time for ask the five. let's see what you've got for us this week . now panel, got for us this week. now panel, if every immigrant to the uk went on strike, how many days do you think it would take for the country to grind to a halt? that's from andy. thank you for that, andy. well, benjamin, i assume you think quite a lot. >> quite a lot of what? i mean, it wouldn't take any time for the country to grind to a halt because immigrants, the children of immigrants, you know, have built this country and they have done for many, many decades. >> and yet our gdp per capita has not risen in well since the 19505, in 15 years. so recent immigration has done nothing for ou

what lost them was liz truss and kwasi kwarteng and they disastrous budget that sent the pound nosediving really important you guys talk a lot about working people. working people pay the cost of that. i know people with mortgages, people that haven't had holidays this summer because their mortgages have gone through the roof because of liz truss, who's now, you know, darting around and having the time of her life. you know, i'm sorry, but let's put responsibility with responsibility needs to be put where it should be. and it is not a keir starmer score. and i am saying to you, and i really do believe this, that we should have hope in our hearts because i think great things are coming for this country. best days to come in 100%. >> but you see, this is it. you. you you can sell it, suzy. you can sell it. we just had chuckles there in the downing street garden earlier on making me want to. >> well i won't say what made me want to do in case i encourage anyone else to do it. but suzy, thank you very, very much. suzy stride that the labour party activist. all right, well, look, okay, we've g

interim head coach of the england men's football squad, ahead of the upcoming nations league fixtures, kwasi him his eight years in charge to an end after defeat to spain in the euro 2024 final last month . and those are the last month. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward alerts >> good afternoon britain. it's 239 and dawn neesom is up next. stepping for in martin daubney who is back next week. dawn, what's coming up on your show? hello >> hi, lovely. >> hi, lovely. >> right . we've got a cracking >> right. we've got a cracking show coming up for you, >> it's just another tall blonde, just different chromosomes, by the way , which chromosomes, by the way, which bnngs chromosomes, by the way, which brings me to one of the stories we're discussing is, did you know that facebook. this one? one for you, emily. facebook is banned. any reference to our x chromosomes? can you believe that? i mean, sorry , what all

kwasi touch me, don't touch me, i will. >> he's touching me right now. >> he's touching me right now., back. >> my job is your safety. no back, back, back. >> my job is your safety . no no, no. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> heck, i know it's a rather overwrought, unnecessary and unpleasant. well, it is . unpleasant. well, it is. >> there's no need to happen like that. >> there's no need for any of this. >> it's meant to be a peaceful protest. >> well, police investigations are now moving online, trawling through social media accounts, searching for posts, apparently, which may have incited or encouraged violence or spread disinformation. >> yeah, and there are some people already in police custody now waiting, awaiting a court appearance on those very things. they posted something online which has been deemed to be a real problem. and possibly troublemaking. well, joining us now ahead of her programme at 930 this morning, camilla tominey. hi there camilla. it is amazing how, keir starmer is following this right through. by the look of it . the look of it. >> yes. i mean, he's certain