thing to ridicule things like the bowling green massacre, but they have real-world potentially deadly kwees. >> i just want to say that i'm sure i'm speaking for many journalists when i say i am offended by this administration's characterization of the american press corps, that we are scumf the earth, dishest, deceitful, and he keeps saying it, and his people keep saying it. and then the people are going to believe it. i remember during the campaign lying ted, crooked hillary. after a while you keep hearing that and you believe it. i spent 40 years trying to tell the people, the american people, the truth about something that's happened that they should know about. we have a sense of ethics. we don't want to lie about anybody. why are they saying we're lying about them? and the opposition party. i don't know what's going to happen, but i know we journalists -- i teach journalism at emerson college, and we're trying to come up with ways of how we can get around this president's opposition to do the job we're intended to do for the american people. >> carole, to stay with you for a moment,