kyiv and kyiv oblast, congratulations mr. tsibor. good evening, mr. vitaly, glad to see and hear you, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. so, tomorrow the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine and hungary are meeting in uzhhorod. what do you expect from this meeting? how much do you hope that there will be some real change in the hungarian-ukrainian mutual atmosphere. well, to be honest, who did i talk to? and i, including my opinion, that such significant changes in warming, well if it will be minimal, because i watched, i follow the hungarian press, mr. orbán when he speaks, and recently, not that softening, on the contrary there are a lot of such negative, i would say ukrainian nativ... atives in orban's press, and 80, more than 80% of hungary's press media, it is the government subordinate to orban, the only thing, i think perhaps, and it is not because of the fact that hungary is there, the leadership has come to love us, but because they really found the appropriate influence on orbán, i think that the positive may be that they will still support us. will vote for the allocation of 50 billion euros to ukraine, and what about any significant movements there, i honestly... say, i do not hope, but if we talk about what in general can be in your opinion, in the attitude of hungary to the integration of ukraine, to the european union, to help ukraine, you do not think that will change over time the position of the hungarian government, are we dealing with this maneuver, as a constant, yes, of course, of course, you are right, the fact is that... orbán, his clique, are very, very negative, well, not only with ukraine, are opposed to brussels, and orbán's entire methodology and policy consists exclusively of blackmail, manipulation and intimidation, so here, if there will be any economic warming, let it be economic in principle. the connection between ukraine and hungary, thank god , is such a normal trade today 4 billion dollars, and there is a surplus from our side, from the side of ukraine, that is, it means that our products are competitive on the hungarian market, here i think there is really room for moving forward, and... in political terms, i think that we should not expect such movements from orbán, of course we need to cooperate, we need to remind szijjártó and orbán that ukraine, we have done much more than even we could, i mean the law on national minorities, currently the hungarian national minority in transcarpathia should give more rights than local ones. ukrainians, because there are places where there are no ukrainian-language schools at all, but only in the hungarian okta. but, as far as i understand, there was already a trend when ukrainian-language schools were opened in hungarian villages, and ukrainians of hungarian origin themselves sent their children to these schools so that they would have the opportunity to continue their education in the ukrainian language. yes, of course, it used to be such a positive trend, and i am in favor of keeping this positive trend going. sorry, i think this is a big positive, when a person knows several languages, and i am very grateful to my parents that i could study in a ukrainian-language school, my native language is hungarian, of course, when i need to, i am with everyone who speaks hungarian in hungary, and no one prevents me from this , but of course the state language should be ukrainian, and tell me, in principle, what is happening with hungarian policy regarding nato, when we talk about sweden, about ukraine, when we talk about the integration of our country into the european union, it is, i do not hear, no i hear sorry i don't hear, i'm saying, when we talk about hungarian policy regarding nato, when we see the situation with sweden regarding the european union, do you consider it an attempt to maneuver between brussels and moscow, or is it some kind of internal policy of mr. orbán that he is trying to follow ... er, let's say, to extend his stay in power? eh, and, of course, he wants to rule like this forever, wants to be such an eternal dictator, and he is basically only interested in money, money, and nothing else. a book about the strategy of hungary, one, was recently published from political figures, balaž orban, this is viktor orban's political director, not a relative, simply. common nicknames, so they simply cynically stated that the hungarian government today is absolutely not interested in anything, apart from its calculations, and in general, in international law , the one who is stronger is always right, and everything else is a delusion, forgive me, that is it's about... you know, hungary's leadership returned to such a pre -westval world of europe, that is, until the 10th of 648, i think you understand what i 'm talking about, they advised ukrainian officials, who meet with the minister of foreign affairs of hungary, by the way, a knight of the russian order of friendship, there is no truth, children. well, of course, of course, well, look, i don't envy our leaders who have to meet siarto. then we will have to meet with orbán, of course, this is not an easy meeting, but this must be done in order to show europe that we are really a european democratic state, and we really want good neighborly relations, and we have done all this, we are doing it unlike orbán and his clique. there is such a political opposition in hungary, which can change the mood of society in the future? there is such a political opposition , a young political opposition, i'm just in front of the air, i spoke with one of the leaders of the faction of the hungarian parliament, this is the momentum, and they talked about what you probably know , literally on saturday one of the far-right leaders for... viv, lászló toroczkai, this is a former member of jobbik, there is actually no jobbik today, it disintegrated very weakly, he created a so-called party, our homeland, i would say the nazi party, and declared that i will lose ukraine several times, they claim to transcarpathia, that's mr. marton, marton tompash, the head of the faction of the hungarian parliament, who fully... supports ukraine, i read literally the phrase that he said, this is really the hungarian opposition, our position is full respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine , and torotsky, who wants to take transcarpathia, is a paid puppet whom orban promoted to the hungarian parliament in order to push his far-right ideas through him. which fidesz, that is, orbán's party, does not dare to express, this is a shameful statement, and it is important to know that the majority of hungarians do not support these unfortunate people, so thank god there is someone to replace orbán in hungary, there is another reason why this is not happening, because we have today a divided hungary, it is... a short-sighted so -called serfdom orbán's hungary is primarily a province, and we have budapest, where orbán did not win a single electoral district at all, so i really hope that in the next elections a new generation will really come to power, democrats who are liberally minded and who are already very popular today. .. really cooperation with ukraine. thank you, mr. tsibor. tsibor tompo, the head of the hungarian community of kyivas in touch with us. we 're going to break for just a few minutes now, but stay with us. do ordinary things become unreal? 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