metropolitan police officer kyle defratag was found deceased. learned earlier today of the death of d.c. metropolitan police officer gunther hashida. joining me is charles ramsey and the philadelphia police commissioner and cnn law enforcement analyst. my goodness, chief ramsey. let's say good evening to you but it not a good evening. thank you for joining. we're learning about the fourth officer that died but suicide. what goes through your mind when you hear this? s >> first of all, i want to offer my condolences to the officers killing themselves as well as the men and women of the department because it's tough when you lose an officer. clearly, there is a mental health issue here that we got to address. it's not just the january 6th insurrection that the officers responded to, of usuy obviously traumatic inls -- incident but day tod day trama. this adds up over time. >> are you worried about this number keeping up, rising? >> i am and i have been for a long time. i mean, there is a very high rate of suicide among police officers. and a lot o

police officer kyle defratag died in july. howard took his own life just a few days after the riot.know that mental health can fail just like physical health. that knowledge should lead to changes in how police officer deaths and injuries are treated. my husband died protecting congress the capitol and the people of this great country as the president said thursday in the rose garden, he died protecting democracy itself. she also writes, these officers need to be recognized for the horrors they have seen and protected us from. their service needs to be respected. their families should receive the same support and assistance as every other fallen officer's family. instead we have been stigmatized, had our health insurance taken, denied even the courtesy of an official burial. brianna, the senate report into the senator break downs that day lists officer smith and officer liebengood lost their lives related to this riot. there's this big question about should these be considered line of duty deaths. should they be afforded the same benefits as other men and women who are killed in the