kyle dickman is a former hot shot, these days associate editor of outside magazine. files california's hot shots in the current issue. kyle, thank you for being with us. this is so horrific, what occurred in arizona. what's your understanding of what happened and the conditions that led to it? >> well, you know, much of the southwest has been experiencing a pretty extreme drought over the past few years, and i think that's one major condition. the other is they were having thunderstorms. in this case, there was a thunderstorm that developed over prescott, arizona and it started to move from the northwest to the southeast toward the fire, when that happened, it was -- there were 40 to 50 mile per hour winds blowing down the canyon, and the fire essentially just exploded. >> i read your article when it first came out. in outside magazine. the physical conditioning of these firefighters, their training, it is incredible tear veng and the positi-- their str and the positions that they willingly put themselves in. >> yeah, it's -- i mean, the physical fitness is a matter o