. >> all right, i'll turn to kyle harper who is director of the institute for american constitutional heritage. tell me your approach. >> i think one of the exciting things about teaching college is you're teaching adults and teaching kids who are becoming adults. and you're not just kechg them facts. you're not just teaching them to memorize when an amendment was ratified -- you're not just teaching them facts. you're teaching them to become citizens. if you embed citizenship inside the classroom you cannot only achieve greater results in your teaching but excite them and engage them to take what they learn into their lives as s citizens and so, to me, that means creating situations for debate and civil discussion in ways that make them realize that these facts on a page actually influence and deeply impact their political lives, and so whether it's religious freedom or privacy, whatever it is, these are issues with a history and history matters particularly when it comes to the constitution in a way that profoundly will shape the world they live in. so giving them a chance not just

i would also like to recognize and thank professor kyle harper for his great work in establishing the institute for the american constitutional heritage. thank you for joining us for "founding mothers: how women shaped the founding," with rosemarie zagarri, professor of u.s. history at george mason university in fairfax, virginia. professor zagarri earned her doctorate from yale university, where she studied with edmund morgan. and before joining the faculty at george mason she taught at west virginia university and catholic university of america. her scholarship articles have appeared in leading journals, including the journal of american history, the american quarterly, the journal of the early republic, lehman merry quarterly, along with numerous essays in edited collections. she's been the recipient of such honors as the outstanding article prize awarded by the southeastern 18th century studies association, fellowships from the national endowment for the humanities, the american antiquarian society, and the american philosophical society. she's also had an poimt by tappy the fulbr