neil: kyle harrington says it is a very big mistake. both former division 1 players themselves. and i'm sure they got money on the side, whatever they were doing those days. that was then, this is now. you look at this and hear what's happening, what do you think? >> well, here's the thing, i don't know about the pay to play situation because there's a lot of different levels in the complications on how this works. what do you believe in, however, is that the ncaa should give athletes a stipend, something maybe once a week or once a month to give them extra cash so the athletes can pay for the basic necessities. as a former athlete, it's hard to get summer jobs when you're working all of these things, all of the practices you have, so the problem started many years ago when the booster programs were hiring these athletes and paying them an absurd amount of money and the ncaa went way too far the other way and as a result it's hard for athletes to make money. give them a stipend, that's what i think. neil: what do you think, kyle? >> listen, you can't give these athletes money in