good things, says kyle olson new rise the education action group which is following what has been happeninghappens? >> well, we have sn joyce expand, competition expand. we have seen union drop dramatically. the teachers' union has lost 30 percent of their members. other public-sector unions have lost 60 percent of the members. so what is interesting is when you actually give teachers and public employees a choice, they opt out. john: so before they had to join, the same way i had to join my stupid union here in new york bere i came to fox when i worked for abc. mandatory union. everyone has to join. now it is the individual teachers joyce. >> that's right. they can opt out. if it was compulsory. you pay the dues or you pay a percentage of for them to negotiate on your behalf. what happened is when teacher said, do i want to continue taking that out of my paycheck, do i want to continue funding that organization that does not represent my personal vws, many teachers said no. john: now it's unfair to the unions because some will just freeload off of the once you do pay. >> so what they shoul

goodhings, says kyle olson new rise the education action group which is following what has been happeninghappens? >> well, we have seen joyce expand, competition expand. we haveeen union drop dramatically. the teachers' union has lost 30 percent of their members. other public-sector unions have lost0 percentf the members. so what is interesting is when you actually give teachers and public employees a choice, they opt out. john: so before they had to join, the same way i had to jon my stupid union here in new york before i came to fox when i worked for abc. mandatory union. everyone has t join. now it is the individual teachers joyce. >> that's right. they can opt out. if it was compulsory. you pay the dues or you pay a percentage of for them to negotiate on your behalf. what happened is when teacher said, do i want to continue taking that out of my paycheck, do i want to continue funding that organization that does not represent my personaliews, many teachers said no. john: now it's unfair to the unions because some will just freeload off of the once you do pay. >> so what they should do

good things, says kyle olson new rise the education action group which is following what has been happeninghappens? >> well, we have seen joyce expand, competition expand. we have seen union drop dramatically. the teachers' union has lost 30 percent of their members. other public-sector unions have lost 60 percent of the members. so what is interesting is when you actually give teachers and public employees a choice, they opt out. john: so before they had to join, the same way i had to join my stupid union here in new york before i came to fox when i worked for abc. mandatory union. everyone has to join. now it is the individual teachers joyce. >> that's right. they can opt out. if it was compulsory. you pay the dues or you pay a percentage of for them to negotiate on your behalf. what happened is when teacher said, do i want to continue taking that out of my paycheck, do i want to continue funding that organization that does not represent my personal views, many teachers said no. john: now it's unfair to the unions because some will just freeload off of the once you do pay. >> so what they

good things, says kyle olson new rise the education action group which is following what has been happeningens? >> well, we have seen joyce expand, competition expand. we have seen union drop dramatically. the teachers' union has lost 30 percent of their members. other public-sector unions have lost 60 percent of the members. so what is interesting is when you actually give teachers and public employees a choice, they opt out. john: so before they had to join, the same way i had to join my stupid union here in new york before i came to fox when i worked for abc. mandatory union. everyone has to join. now it is the individual teachers joyce. >> that's right. they can opt out. if it was compulsory. you pay the dues or you pay a percentage of for them to negotiate on your behalf. what happened is when teacher said, do i want to continue taking that out of my paycheck, do i want to continue funding that organization that does not represent my personal views, many teachers said no. john: now it's unfair to the unions because some will just freeload off of the once you do pay. >> so what they sho

good things, says kyle olson new rise the education action group which is following what has been happeningens? >> well, we have seen joyce expand, competition expand. we have seen union drop dramatically. the teachers' union has lost 30 percent of their members. other public-sector union have lost 60 percent of the members. so what is interesting is when you actually give teachers and public employees a choice, they opt out. john: so before they had to join, the same way i had to join my stupid union here in new york before i came to fox when i worked for abc. mandatory union. everyone has to join. now it is the individual teachers joyce. >> that's right. they can opt out. if it was compulsory. you pay the dues or you pay a percentage of for them to negotiate on your behalf. what happened is when teacher said, do i want to continue taking that out of my paycheck, do i want to continue funding that organization that does not represent my personal views, many teachers said no. john: now it's unfair to the unions because some will just freeload off of the once you do pay. >> so what they shou