l. patrick gray. [laughter] smith: it wasn't him. downie: so i figured in this game i only get three strikes, i mean, otherwise i'm going to be a fool because i had such a good start, you know? smith: yeah. downie: so i, i thought carefully and suddenly i remembered how much came, how much could have come from the fbi and how there's only one person near the top of the fbi who would have been trustworthy enough for that, uh, and i had had contact with mark felt briefly as an investigative reporter once and was impressed by him, and so i wrote his name down this time on a piece of paper, put it in a sealed envelope, very formal, and gave it to bob, here's my last strike. you let me know when. so time goes by and woodward is always speaking on campuses. smith: yeah. downie: about watergate, and he would always be asked about deep throat and he would always say i can't talk about him because he's still alive. and then he started saying well he's very ill, so i think pretty soon you'll know who he is. so i called him into my office and i